Sorry Iām not picking on you specifically, but every post about Reddit or r/place has someone saying something like ājust leaveā āany engagement helps themā, etc.
I think thatās exactly what they want.
They want the intelligent-but-cynical, hard-to-influence, infamously difficult-to-monetise dissenting mob to fuck off elsewhere, and leave them with the doomscrolling, passive users who are willing to use their app and happy to just look at whatever content is in front of them as long as sometimes there is a kitty.
The problem we have is that that mob of vocal users isnāt everybody. It probably isnāt even most users. I think theyād willingly lose us if it means the dissent goes with us.
So I donāt think this negative engagement is necessarily bad - it keeps their mismanagement in the news, and it opens users eyes to alternatives. And for me, that is the goal - to bring some of those awesome communities over to federated alternatives where no one corporate entity can take it away.
Plus itās certainly going to be amusing if their flagship community engagement event (the output of which has been widely shared by the media in the past) has a giant āfuck spezā banner in it.
Yeah, a lot of people still havenāt gotten this yet. Spez wants reddit to be friendly to stupid people who do stupid things like buy Trump NFCs. This entire thing is about purging the old, tech savvy, liberal/left crowd to make room for Facebook NPCs who are easier to monetize.
No, heās right. If people just āfuck offā instead of protesting, shit doesnāt get done.
Some people donāt just want to āmove onā when theyāre pissed at yet another example of capitalism ruining a platform that got itself a monopoly because of capitalism. If reddit hadnāt been there when Digg died, somebody else would have. That somebody else might have done things differently than reddit, and now we wouldnāt have this issue where reddit is almost ātoo big to failā.
So I may be too lazy to actively protest reddit, but saying my decision to ājust fuck offā is the braver one because the protestors are āaddictedāā¦ I just disagree.
Capitalism says weāre not supposed to have expectations of the giants who cannibalize their market. I disagree strongly.
Doesnāt reddit not make money though? Like, if traffic resulted in them making money, Iād agree, but everything Iāve heard would indicate using reddit with an adblocker literally costs them money.
Exclusively using reddit to protest should be fine IMO, just donāt contribute anything that isnāt a protest (including voting)
The argument is that it drives the active users and engagement up which allows them to show off those numbers to investors and it looks great for the upcoming IPO.
IMO though, I do believe that Reddit was losing money from 3pa because theyāve refused to say just how many users were using those apps compared to theirs.
User engagement is still user engagement, would be best if no one participated at all.
Sorry Iām not picking on you specifically, but every post about Reddit or r/place has someone saying something like ājust leaveā āany engagement helps themā, etc.
I think thatās exactly what they want.
They want the intelligent-but-cynical, hard-to-influence, infamously difficult-to-monetise dissenting mob to fuck off elsewhere, and leave them with the doomscrolling, passive users who are willing to use their app and happy to just look at whatever content is in front of them as long as sometimes there is a kitty.
The problem we have is that that mob of vocal users isnāt everybody. It probably isnāt even most users. I think theyād willingly lose us if it means the dissent goes with us.
So I donāt think this negative engagement is necessarily bad - it keeps their mismanagement in the news, and it opens users eyes to alternatives. And for me, that is the goal - to bring some of those awesome communities over to federated alternatives where no one corporate entity can take it away.
Plus itās certainly going to be amusing if their flagship community engagement event (the output of which has been widely shared by the media in the past) has a giant āfuck spezā banner in it.
Yeah, a lot of people still havenāt gotten this yet. Spez wants reddit to be friendly to stupid people who do stupid things like buy Trump NFCs. This entire thing is about purging the old, tech savvy, liberal/left crowd to make room for Facebook NPCs who are easier to monetize.
Youāte just addicted. Let it go.
No, heās right. If people just āfuck offā instead of protesting, shit doesnāt get done.
Some people donāt just want to āmove onā when theyāre pissed at yet another example of capitalism ruining a platform that got itself a monopoly because of capitalism. If reddit hadnāt been there when Digg died, somebody else would have. That somebody else might have done things differently than reddit, and now we wouldnāt have this issue where reddit is almost ātoo big to failā.
So I may be too lazy to actively protest reddit, but saying my decision to ājust fuck offā is the braver one because the protestors are āaddictedāā¦ I just disagree.
Capitalism says weāre not supposed to have expectations of the giants who cannibalize their market. I disagree strongly.
Doesnāt reddit not make money though? Like, if traffic resulted in them making money, Iād agree, but everything Iāve heard would indicate using reddit with an adblocker literally costs them money.
Exclusively using reddit to protest should be fine IMO, just donāt contribute anything that isnāt a protest (including voting)
The argument is that it drives the active users and engagement up which allows them to show off those numbers to investors and it looks great for the upcoming IPO.
IMO though, I do believe that Reddit was losing money from 3pa because theyāve refused to say just how many users were using those apps compared to theirs.