I might get shit for this, but in Wisconsin having a Dem governor has absolutely slowed down the deluge of fascist bullshit we’ve been putting up with for the past decade and a half. I can’t imagine how much worse things would be if Walker was still in power.
That’s fair enough, but somewhat of a moot point when the vote scolding is over the presidential election, where the dems have been worse than useless.
That’s why Walz is specifically effective at de radicalization. If I were a public figure, my opponents would be making commercials highlighting that I said “if the national Democrats were more like DFL, I might vote for them”
Spamming the same response is shitty, intellectually lazy and also just not a good way to create discussion nor a way to be persuasive. It makes you come off as desperate
Let’s think about it this way. The red team and blue team will only band together to beat down anything remotely leftist, so we kinda are limited to organizing in our local communities. Would you rather do leftist work under a old white person who blows hot air about allegedly believing that immigrants are people and that people have inherent human rights, or an old white person who doesn’t even pretend to see non-white people as human and vocally opposes basic human rights? That’s what voting is for, as I see it.
When you vote for someone you legitimise them and you are giving them approval. The more legitimate a government is perceived to be, the harder it is to organise resistance against it.
Furthermore there was way more resistance to government actions and support for dissidents under Trump than under Biden, even though Biden has expanded a lot of Trumps most unpopular policies.
Were you not conscious during the Trump presidency? Remember airports full of lawyers and liberals trying to stop deportations? That was pretty good, right? Where the fuck did they go when Biden got into office and smashed the deportation accelerator? Biden deported more people in his first year than Trump did in four and the liberals have been dead fucking silent.
So if you’re asking which climate I’d rather organize under, it’s the one where people actually organize against the executive to stop bad things and that literally only happens when a Republican is in office because liberals are blind.
Considering they both end up being indistinguishable policy-wise and Mango Mussolini’s presidency pushed libs to actually set brunch aside for a bit, I’d much rather take the latter.
Has voting blue ever actually slowed down the progression of fascist policies though?
I might get shit for this, but in Wisconsin having a Dem governor has absolutely slowed down the deluge of fascist bullshit we’ve been putting up with for the past decade and a half. I can’t imagine how much worse things would be if Walker was still in power.
That’s fair enough, but somewhat of a moot point when the vote scolding is over the presidential election, where the dems have been worse than useless.
That’s why Walz is specifically effective at de radicalization. If I were a public figure, my opponents would be making commercials highlighting that I said “if the national Democrats were more like DFL, I might vote for them”
(gesturing to Biden’s complete 180* turn on border and immigration policy) no
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Spamming the same response is shitty, intellectually lazy and also just not a good way to create discussion nor a way to be persuasive. It makes you come off as desperate
They’re just doing qhat the union asked!
Let’s think about it this way. The red team and blue team will only band together to beat down anything remotely leftist, so we kinda are limited to organizing in our local communities. Would you rather do leftist work under a old white person who blows hot air about allegedly believing that immigrants are people and that people have inherent human rights, or an old white person who doesn’t even pretend to see non-white people as human and vocally opposes basic human rights? That’s what voting is for, as I see it.
When you vote for someone you legitimise them and you are giving them approval. The more legitimate a government is perceived to be, the harder it is to organise resistance against it.
Furthermore there was way more resistance to government actions and support for dissidents under Trump than under Biden, even though Biden has expanded a lot of Trumps most unpopular policies.
Were you not conscious during the Trump presidency? Remember airports full of lawyers and liberals trying to stop deportations? That was pretty good, right? Where the fuck did they go when Biden got into office and smashed the deportation accelerator? Biden deported more people in his first year than Trump did in four and the liberals have been dead fucking silent.
So if you’re asking which climate I’d rather organize under, it’s the one where people actually organize against the executive to stop bad things and that literally only happens when a Republican is in office because liberals are blind.
Considering they both end up being indistinguishable policy-wise and Mango Mussolini’s presidency pushed libs to actually set brunch aside for a bit, I’d much rather take the latter.