It’s well established in the Star Wars universe that all you need to create gravity is a floor. Take, for example, any scene from within any of the space ships. Gravity is never a problem.
Of course, a deep chasm also seems to create gravity, as seen in the first movie when Luke and Leia swing from one ramp to another to escape the stormtroopers chasing them.
Regardless, it’s easy to see from the blueprints that the layout is stacked like your first image.
Edit: upon closer examination it turns out it’s both. The plans show three ‘concentric surface decks’ that apparently work like your second image. So I guess the answer is ‘it depends on where you are in the death star’, and, I guess, which way ‘down’ is where you are.
Since the sequels had space “bombers” dropping unguided bombs by just opening a hatch and letting them go, you only need to have a vaguely identifiable “down” for gravity to work…
Little ships seem to push off of something in space to maneuver. Big ships at least are described as having gravity generators.
Then there are of the loud, fiery explosions, which wouldn’t really work in a vacuum or near vaccuum.
There doesn’t seem to be any radiation from anything anywhere in space, almost like some medium is blocking it.
Also they all seem to find a (nearly) level plane to fight there ships on.
It depends on what cannon you look towards to see if relatively applies, generally it doesn’t, but every once in a while the writers will turn a ship into pure energy and nuke something.
So, you can have a fiery explosion in space… its just that it would have to be kind of chemical that can burn without requiring oxygen.
IRL there are many chemicals that, once sufficiently heated, basically burn themselves up extremely energetically without need for an atmosphere to fuel this process.
Also IRL, most rockets are controlled, continuous combustion of varying kinds of volatile chemicals, and if combustion manages to occur not al the rocket nozzle, you can absolutely have a fiery explosion, as the rocket itself brings the oxidizer along with it.
Coloration of various kinds of chemicals exploding can potentially be a wide array of colors beyond the typical orange/red we generally associate with most movie explosions.
Movie explosions are themselves often dramatically overdone for the fireball effect by adding huge amounts of gasoline or kerosene or things like this to greatly accentuate the fireball.
Further, due to lack of a gravitation field, and atmosphere to allow for air currents, flames do not go up, they basically form spheres around whatever is burning, and look totally different from what we are used to.
Basically, fiery explosions in space are realistically possible, its just that they would look very different from say a fighter plane exploding in atmosphere.
Depending on how you explain them, they could be different colors, expand in very visually distinct ways, and probably visually persist for a much shorter time frame.
What you could not have is the scene from the Acolyte where Osha outs out a fire.
If some kind of flammable gas managed to ignite, then the fire would not be limited to just where it is exposed to air space.
The combustion would spread through the entire container or fuel line system and basically all of that would likely explode.
Their next words were ‘fiery explosion’, so I responded to that.
Its pretty immediately obvious that sound does not exist in space (beyond maybe you in a suit picking up vibrations from something you are touching), but this is a very, very commonly disregarded reality in nearly all space faring Sci Fi movies/shows.
I assumed this is so obvious it does not need an explanation as to its realism, whereas the presence of fiery explosions and fire in space is actually a complex and interesting subject.
You see, Star Wars unguided bombs work via the buoyancy principle, as outlined by our current Flat Earth Scholars.
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Haha but for real, in the original trilogy, I think there are a handful of scenes where TIE Bombers are shown dropping bombs, but its on things like pretty large asteroids or planets, and in at least the early games like TIE Fighter, the bombs are basically just replaced with things sort of like torpedoes: very slow, no or slow guidance/tracking, only useful against large slow targets.
Whilst the bomber scene in 8 is silly, I think its mainly silly that its like a bomb bay with a fucking open hole, like a ww2 bomber, but the crew are not wearing pressure suits and oxygen masks.
Even if there is one if those hangar forcefield type things… thats a component which can obviously fail, so you’d think the crew would be fully suited up the whole time.
At least with the TIE bombers, the bombs were some kind of glowing energy bomb thing, so there is room to assume like maybe they are shot in a downward direction or they have tiny thrusters or something…
The new one basically just decided to take a WWII style carpet bomber straight out of a war movie and toss it up into space. I’m shocked they didn’t just take a B-29, rip the props off, and make the back of the engines glow.
I don’t know why people have a problem with this. The bomb bay had gravity, just like all parts of every other ship, big or small. If you drop the bombs while they are inside of the ship, and they fall out of a hole (and we’ve seen big access holes in ships before) then once they are in space they will continue with inertia.
It’s well established in the Star Wars universe that all you need to create gravity is a floor. Take, for example, any scene from within any of the space ships. Gravity is never a problem.
Of course, a deep chasm also seems to create gravity, as seen in the first movie when Luke and Leia swing from one ramp to another to escape the stormtroopers chasing them.
Regardless, it’s easy to see from the blueprints that the layout is stacked like your first image.
Edit: upon closer examination it turns out it’s both. The plans show three ‘concentric surface decks’ that apparently work like your second image. So I guess the answer is ‘it depends on where you are in the death star’, and, I guess, which way ‘down’ is where you are.
Since the sequels had space “bombers” dropping unguided bombs by just opening a hatch and letting them go, you only need to have a vaguely identifiable “down” for gravity to work…
Star Wars apparently takes place in the Elemental Plane of Air
… Does the Star Wars universe follow an entire branch of fictional science where the lumineferous aether is real, and relativity… isn’t?
Yeah, kinda.
Little ships seem to push off of something in space to maneuver. Big ships at least are described as having gravity generators.
Then there are of the loud, fiery explosions, which wouldn’t really work in a vacuum or near vaccuum.
There doesn’t seem to be any radiation from anything anywhere in space, almost like some medium is blocking it.
Also they all seem to find a (nearly) level plane to fight there ships on.
It depends on what cannon you look towards to see if relatively applies, generally it doesn’t, but every once in a while the writers will turn a ship into pure energy and nuke something.
So, you can have a fiery explosion in space… its just that it would have to be kind of chemical that can burn without requiring oxygen.
IRL there are many chemicals that, once sufficiently heated, basically burn themselves up extremely energetically without need for an atmosphere to fuel this process.
Also IRL, most rockets are controlled, continuous combustion of varying kinds of volatile chemicals, and if combustion manages to occur not al the rocket nozzle, you can absolutely have a fiery explosion, as the rocket itself brings the oxidizer along with it.
Coloration of various kinds of chemicals exploding can potentially be a wide array of colors beyond the typical orange/red we generally associate with most movie explosions.
Movie explosions are themselves often dramatically overdone for the fireball effect by adding huge amounts of gasoline or kerosene or things like this to greatly accentuate the fireball.
Further, due to lack of a gravitation field, and atmosphere to allow for air currents, flames do not go up, they basically form spheres around whatever is burning, and look totally different from what we are used to.
Basically, fiery explosions in space are realistically possible, its just that they would look very different from say a fighter plane exploding in atmosphere.
Depending on how you explain them, they could be different colors, expand in very visually distinct ways, and probably visually persist for a much shorter time frame.
What you could not have is the scene from the Acolyte where Osha outs out a fire.
If some kind of flammable gas managed to ignite, then the fire would not be limited to just where it is exposed to
airspace.The combustion would spread through the entire container or fuel line system and basically all of that would likely explode.
Dude’s first word describing the explosions was “loud”. Just fyi.
Yes… and… ?
Their next words were ‘fiery explosion’, so I responded to that.
Its pretty immediately obvious that sound does not exist in space (beyond maybe you in a suit picking up vibrations from something you are touching), but this is a very, very commonly disregarded reality in nearly all space faring Sci Fi movies/shows.
I assumed this is so obvious it does not need an explanation as to its realism, whereas the presence of fiery explosions and fire in space is actually a complex and interesting subject.
You see, Star Wars unguided bombs work via the buoyancy principle, as outlined by our current Flat Earth Scholars.
/s
Haha but for real, in the original trilogy, I think there are a handful of scenes where TIE Bombers are shown dropping bombs, but its on things like pretty large asteroids or planets, and in at least the early games like TIE Fighter, the bombs are basically just replaced with things sort of like torpedoes: very slow, no or slow guidance/tracking, only useful against large slow targets.
Whilst the bomber scene in 8 is silly, I think its mainly silly that its like a bomb bay with a fucking open hole, like a ww2 bomber, but the crew are not wearing pressure suits and oxygen masks.
Even if there is one if those hangar forcefield type things… thats a component which can obviously fail, so you’d think the crew would be fully suited up the whole time.
At least with the TIE bombers, the bombs were some kind of glowing energy bomb thing, so there is room to assume like maybe they are shot in a downward direction or they have tiny thrusters or something…
The new one basically just decided to take a WWII style carpet bomber straight out of a war movie and toss it up into space. I’m shocked they didn’t just take a B-29, rip the props off, and make the back of the engines glow.
I don’t know why people have a problem with this. The bomb bay had gravity, just like all parts of every other ship, big or small. If you drop the bombs while they are inside of the ship, and they fall out of a hole (and we’ve seen big access holes in ships before) then once they are in space they will continue with inertia.