There are some other things transpiring in American politics right now. But we must note that Democratic leaders are now unabashedly stating what Bernie Sanders supporters said over and over in 2020: the party pushed Joe Biden primarily to stop Bernie.
    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      324·
      5 months ago

      also because most of the terminally online far left agree with the far right. which is why most of them are transphobic and anti-immigrant af.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
        111·
        5 months ago

        Oh, I see. Biden’s adoption of Trump’s immigration policies are why centrists think he’s the most progressive president who ever progressed a progress.

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            5 months ago

            Biden circumvented 26 environmental laws to build Trump’s wall for him. Centrists weren’t pretending his hands were tied then, since he was doing exactly what centrists want: whatever Republicans want.

        • happenis
          11·
          5 months ago

          The wiki page specifically says that it’s highly criticized:

          Several political scientists, psychologists, and sociologists have criticized the horseshoe theory. […] political scientists do not appear to support this notion, and instances of peer-reviewed research on the subject are scarce. Existing studies and comprehensive reviews often find only limited support and only under certain conditions; they generally contradict the theory’s central premises.

          Just because it has a wiki page does not mean it’s a valid theory.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Theory

          • YeetPics@mander.xyz
            35·
            5 months ago

            Do you know how theory works?

            You have to prove a theory true before you can say it’s a fact.

            Saying it’s a fact is misinformation.

            Like saying “Biden started the genocide in Palestine”. Might make you feel popular in your echochamber, but reality is at odds with the statement.

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
              52·
              5 months ago

              Do you know how theory works?

              I sure as hell know how gaslighting works.

              I get that you’re just happy to pretend that anyone to your left is a Trumpist because it gives you an excuse to dismiss anything you don’t like.

              You have to prove a theory true before you can say it’s a fact.

              Saying it’s a fact is misinformation.

              Ain’t a whole lotta room for “jeepers, it’s totally only a theory” here:

              also because most of the terminally online far left agree with the far right. which is why most of them are transphobic and anti-immigrant af.

              Which is straight up libeling an entire movement. There is NOTHING that says most leftists are transphobic or anti-immigrant. Not a goddamned thing. That’s not a ThEoRy, it’s a fucking lie.

              Like saying “Biden started the genocide in Palestine”.

              Which I’ve never said. I’ve said that he supports Netanyahu’s genocide. But hey, you’re not above some libel. You can just call it a theory after the fact.

        • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          2·
          5 months ago

          You should be rejecting it because it’s opinion rather than “information” (mis or not), not because an online theory exists which codifies the opinion. And it probably should have been reported for Trolling in the first place. That’s not a comment intending to do anything but start a fight.