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CDRMITTENS@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 10 months ago

If I’ve learned anything from watching combat footage from Ukraine, it’s that shotguns are very effective at taking down drones. Who would’ve guessed the thing used to kill birds kills drones?

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If I’ve learned anything from watching combat footage from Ukraine, it’s that shotguns are very effective at taking down drones. Who would’ve guessed the thing used to kill birds kills drones?

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CDRMITTENS@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 10 months ago
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  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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    Me and my bro about to shoot the shit out of some drones

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      • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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        We need more Orky thinking around here,

  • BuelldozerA
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    Shotguns are ineffective against drones more than 100ish yards away. ISR drones commonly work well beyond this distance. Shotguns are also ineffective against FPV drones because their high speed demands marksmanship and fast reflexes in order to hit them. Shotguns don’t work against any of them in the dark because you can’t see them.

    So the take-a-way here is that we need to shrink Patriot Batteries down to fit in a backpack and make 100,000 units so we an assign them at the platoon level.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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      10 months ago

      Wrong.

      Bigger shotguns.

      • BuelldozerA
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        Still can’t see in the dark. That’s why we need backpack patriot batteries.

        • Aido@lemmy.world
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          No, you misunderstand. BIGGER shotguns.

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            Don’t need to see in the dark if you fill the entire sky with shotgun pellets

            • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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              You need to think bigger, rods of god buckshot.

              • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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                I’m pretty impressed - God

              • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
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                How big would a tungsten ball need to be to survive reentry?

        • Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world
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          Torch scanning the sky, what could possibly go wrong

        • Anticorp@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          Bigger shotguns with infrared sights.

      • aLiteral_potato@sh.itjust.works
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        Ks 23 with rednecked proximity fused 23mm FRAG rounds. Wait did we come full circle?

      • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        Also: MORE shotguns

      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Gauge 1 shotguns letsgo!

    • wdx@feddit.org
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      10 months ago

      What about weaponised fibsh?

  • Ioughttamow@kbin.run
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    WW1 Germans: “Hey, that’s cheating!”

    • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      Ve declare it a war crime.

      • snooggums@midwest.social
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        Und ve should know!

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          Goddamnit Jim the Krauts are saying stupid shit about knowing war crimes. Go get the Canadian, the French Canadian.

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    Sure a buckshot works great against a drone or two, but what do you do when there’s a swarm of them? We’re getting to that level of sophistication with them pretty quickly.

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      • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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        Does that thing have two triggers???

      • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Sometimes you just need a little more gun.

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    • snooggums@midwest.social
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      Mounted automatic shotgun versions of antiaircraft guns.

      • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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        Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you invented a flak cannon

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          I thought flak cannons were airburst!

    • 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
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      Well then you need a swarm of shotguns, obviously.

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      Laughs in Metal Storm Technology

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        IIRC that was truely noncredible IRL, and couldn’t get funding.

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      Shotgun CWIS, obviously

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      You either need more guns or more range, I guess. Swarming the other guy first is also an option, or sending drones after the drones, although you lose any cost advantage that way.

      I know the is NCD, but it sounds like the professional military thinkers are expecting things to keep shifting towards emphasis on mobility and concealment, just because the post-identification kill chain is getting so foolproof.

    • boatsnhos931@lemmy.worldBanned
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      Better ask somebody

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      You use a swarm of shotguns!

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    Sounds cool. Gimmi some sauce on shotgun takedowns

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      Even better: shotgun takedowns from a plane flying with the canopy open https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/06/29/ukraines-world-war-i-style-dogfighters-have-shot-down-more-russian-drones/

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        Man, the Russians are engaged in an all out war, and the Ukrainians are out there having the time of their lives!

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    !birdsarentreal@lemmy.world

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      https://youtu.be/3VEkzweBJPM

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    Is a shotgun really only $200?

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      I haven’t looked in a while but you could get used Remington 870s (an extremely popular shotgun) for around $200 all day on armslist.

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      Depends on the model and store you buy it from, but you definitely can buy some hunting shotguns in the 200-250USD range.

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      https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/maverick-88-all-purpose-12ga-black-pump-action-synthetic-stock-shotgun/0000000066934?bc=10276|10277|10281

      Yep.

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        That 88 is an amazing shotgun for the money too. It has interchangeable barrels, so you can use an 18" barrel for home defense, and even add a pistol grip for that config if you want, then it has a long, vented, hunting barrel, with threaded interchangeable chokes that accept anything made for the Browning Invictor choke. You can take the hunting plug out of the shell tube and hold up to six shells. They’re reliable, lightweight, accurate, powerful, and have pretty good recoil pads. They’re made by Mossberg in the Mossberg factory. Oh, and like we were saying, they’re dirt cheap!

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    So pretty credible?

  • letme_meowmeow@sh.itjust.works
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    A slingshot will work tooo. Let’s try it.

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    I’m so disappointed that we finally got these enormous sci-fi “electric rifles” and all they do is make RC toys land safely.

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    I could, and did.

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    I’m probably on the right place to ask:

    Has anybody tried party poppers?

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    Skeet shooting coming to a military base near you!

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