• Wrench@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Yeah, the best case scenario was Biden not running for 2024 from the beginning so we could have proper primaries, and align behind the winner. That’s how it should have been handled.

    But it’s too late. None of the candidates you mentioned are strong enough to rally behind this late in the race. Each state would need to figure out a makeshift primary and then align, or DNC would have to choose, which would make it Harris by default. It would be an absolute disaster.

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      5 months ago

      I mean… you and I can armchair general the situation until we’re blue in the face, but the fact remains that the debate and his subsequent interview last Friday (that was supposed to allay concerns, but ended up stoking them - albeit, for me at least, in a different direction) have made not only random joes like me lose confidence in his ability to pull out a win in November, but sitting legislators, party insiders, and the donor class as well. Biden and his campaign are handling this whole thing like rank amateurs and imbeciles, and I’m furious about it because I understand exactly what the implications are if we fail to stop the fascists from winning the election… and neither Biden nor his campaign seem to be taking that as seriously as it needs to be taken.

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      5 months ago

      Would all those guys lose to Trump? Probably. Will Biden lose to Trump? Definitely. I’ll take long odds over no odds.

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          5 months ago

          The real reason why no one polls better is that everyone else is a hypothetical right now Even if you phrase the poll as “If Biden backs out, and is replaced by $NAME, will you support $NAME?”, people still have their own preferences and that will make it into the poll. They may be secretly hoping for AOC or Michelle Obama or Beyoncé, and say “No” because of that.

          But after Biden leaves, if the question is “Now that the candidate is $NAME, will you support $NAME”, I think you will find a lot of support rallying behind that person. Because there’s no choice at that point.

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      5 months ago

      You’re right, but you aren’t acknowledging that the current path we are on is an absolute disaster too.

      Bidens poll numbers are 12-15% lower than they were 4 years ago when he barely defeated Trump.

      To win now, Biden needs to pull off the biggest comeback in US presidential history. And the political fallout from Biden’s disastrous debate and interview performances hasn’t even settled yet.

      With Harris, at least we would have a shot at defeating Trump.