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Lemmy is a service for the purpose of publishing your posts & comments to servers that are outside of your control or the control of your local server’s operator.
That is literally what it is for. That is not a bug; it is not just a feature; it is the whole design.
The ability of servers to go their own way is why it’s a federated service and not a centralized one.
When you send an email from
you@aol.comtothem@ox.ac.uk, you cannot take it back. The content of your email is sent from your computer, to AOL’s server, to Oxford’s server, to the recipient’s email client on their computer. Oxford can back it up as part of regular server backups. The recipient can print it out on their printer and put it in a filing cabinet and show it to someone ten years later. For that matter, AOL is under American jurisdiction and Oxford is under British jurisdiction.That’s literally what SMTP email is for. It’s for sending a message to someone else in a different zone of control. As a result, you can’t take it back.
Same goes here. ActivityPub is a lot like email, Usenet, and other classic federated protocols; a major difference is that it’s implemented on top of HTTPS and JSON rather than raw TCP and line-based classic-IETF-style protocols.
What does post/comment permanency have to do with privacy? The linked post is an opinion, with no facts backing up their extreme claims.
It’s true that if you delete a comment, your username remains, but is that a matter of privacy? Was it acceptably private before deletion? Why does that change afterwards?
I’m extremely skeptical of the poster sharing partial truths with opinion and no sources.
Edit: I read some of the comments. Poor jorgesumle4, yeesh!
Edit2: and won’t be going anywhere near raddle, either. Oof! “My echo chamber isn’t echoing right! I must now yell and spew some ad hominem hate! Ahh, much better.”
Edit3: To @orientalsniper@lemmy.world, I would say your OP question, “is there truth to this?” is being asked about an opinion. Can opinion be true or false? I don’t really understand the premise. If you’re posting on the public internet, that’s not private. Full stop. Any platform on the public internet, no matter how you can or cannot delete your contributions, is not private.
What does post/comment permanency have to do with privacy?
Some folks consider “the right to be forgotten” to be a privacy right.
There are cases where this makes sense. For instance, suppose you’re a schoolteacher in Florida today. But a dozen years ago, you were in college and you did a drag performance. Today, the fascist DeSantis regime might label you a “groomer” and fire you or even prosecute you. A dozen years ago, you felt okay putting a video of your drag performance on YouTube … but today you would really like to make sure that the most frothingly fascist parent of your students could not find that video.
It’s easy to say “well, the problem is that Florida has fascists in charge” but that doesn’t help the schoolteacher.
To be clear: This is not an easy issue. All quick snappy answers are wrong.
I feel you. Thanks for the comment. “Right to be Forgotten” was the phrase I needed to see for that to click.
I think your analogy is off the mark only in that, in the situation you describe in the lemmy platform, the teacher’s video disappears, but everyone can still see that they posted something.
I do hope that in time, lemmy devs remove the username next to deleted posts.
As I said to OP in another comment, lemmy gets a lot right when it comes to privacy, and much more right than most social media platforms. For me, I won’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
My issue with this is that it feels like kinda an issue with federated software
I’m not gonna say lemmy couldn’t try of add federated delete functions but I feel ultimately federation comes with risk, I dont like the fact lemmy is ran by tankies, I really wish KBin had apps but I feel like this could be an issue no matter what
