Trump Demands Biden Remove Ad of Him Calling Dead Soldiers ‘Suckers’ and ‘Losers’ - The former president said only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Trump is ENTIRELY transactional. The idea that good men would fight a war for their country purely because it’s the right thing to do escapes him entirely.

    In fairness, you only need a bunch of good men to fight a war purely because it’s the right thing in order to counter the bad men fighting a war in order to do a bad thing.

    Maybe if Trump’s attitude had been more common in Berlin in the 1930s, or more common in the US during the 1960s or in Israel or Russia during the 2020s, we’d have skipped a few nightmarish atrocities without having a bunch of good men perish in the process.

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      6 months ago

      You are cherry-picking and going off rails.

      But to humor you, how far back do you want to go?

      Because the U.S. was founded on atrocities committed against the people who already lived in North America.

      And the U.S. funded operations to topple legitimate governments in Central America, a time in which a lot of good people died because of it.

      So, don’t paint the U.S. as “the good guys who should listen to Trump.”

      But again, this is entirely a red-herring.

      The truth of the matter is, Trump is a piece of shit who doesn’t respect the people who sacrifice their lives for his safety.

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        6 months ago

        So, don’t paint the U.S. as “the good guys who should listen to Trump.”

        There are plenty of good people in the US who have resisted the Trumpian brand of ethnic nationalism and the capitalist death drive. And quite a few of them died for their country (or, at least, their friends and family and neighbors). But they’re not the ones we celebrate on Memorial Day. Not officially, anyway.

        The truth of the matter is, Trump is a piece of shit who doesn’t respect the people who sacrifice their lives for his safety.

        Trump was never in any danger. His father was a fascist who idolized the Italian and German dictators running roughshod over Europe. If they’d somehow managed to marshal enough fossil fuel and methamphetamine to do a reverse D-Day and put Axis soldiers onto the Atlantic seaboard, the Trump family would have been the first in line to great them as liberators.

        Why on earth would he be celebrating the Roosevelt Democrats and Eugene Debbs Socialists who were out firing on his ideological allies and business buddies on the other side of the Atlantic?

        Trump wasn’t going to pay homage to the allies of Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin. You think he wants to bend the knee for a bunch of tankies?

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      6 months ago

      What kind of fucking weakass reasoning is this? “Genocidal maniacs are the moral equivalent of those who would give their lives to stop them”. The fuck?