The new standards are part of a broad push to get more Americans into electric vehicles, and reduce the environmental cost of driving.

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    7 months ago

    I never ever see people towing and hauling with those machines. My Honda Civic is 16 years old and is fine, my car before that was a Nissan Sentra and died at 22 years old.

    New cars are not shitty.

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      7 months ago

      New cars are kinda shitty. They collect a ton of data, don’t let you actually drive, have a million unecessary features built in to try to reduce the stupidity of drivers who should be nowhere near a motor vehicle and are super ugly to boot.

      I do know a lot of people who tow, but I’m in motor racing circles where people are regularly hauling race cars through multiple states every week.

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        7 months ago

        New vehicles are like that.

        If you think your new truck doesn’t do all the same data collection shit, you’re sorely mistaken. They’re all made to make a profit. If they can collect data and profit off of it after the sale, they’re going to. Trucks aren’t exempt from this.

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          7 months ago

          Well yes, I don’t have a truck. I have a performance sportscar from the early 2010s instead. They’re all bad past early 2010s tbh.

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            7 months ago

            I love that new vehicles ae more efficient, but everything else sucks. The car market needs to be shaken up. There’s no real competition anymore. A new company could probably make so much money by using modern technological advances, but including all the manual dials and things we used to get standard, and preferably without the data harvesting.

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              Yes, but they’d miss out on the long term revenue, which is what everyone is chasing nowadays. There’s be no investors.

              Tbh as a car enthusiast there’s been a few advances I’ve been interested in, but nothing really game changing in the affordable range.

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          7 months ago

          Those are the base models for the most part. I’ve yet to see a new car better than something from 20 years ago