Amazon.comās Whole Foods Market doesnāt want to be forced to let workers wear āBlack Lives Matterā masks and is pointing to the recent US Supreme Court ruling permitting a business owner to refuse services to same-sex couples to get federal regulators to back off.
National Labor Relations Board prosecutors have accused the grocer of stifling worker rights by banning staff from wearing BLM masks or pins on the job. The company countered in a filing that its own rights are being violated if itās forced to allow BLM slogans to be worn with Whole Foods uniforms.
Amazon is the most prominent company to use the high courtās June ruling that a Christian web designer was free to refuse to design sites for gay weddings, saying the case āprovides a clear roadmapā to throw out the NLRBās complaint.
The dispute is one of several in which labor board officials are considering what counts as legally-protected, work-related communication and activism on the job.
Not even close. Iām part of a marginalized group, but donāt make it my whole identity. I came from immigrant parents, am first generation American, worked hard to get where I am and am raising up those around me as well. You know what doesnāt help? Wearing a fucking pin or logo.
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Letās put this in perspective. What has Whole Foods done to warrant being protested against in regards to BLM? Is Whole Foods racist for applying a policy fairly across the board?
Why would you protest Whole Foods if theyāve done nothing wrong? Why would you stress your contract with a company youāre working for that has a known dress code in order to āprotestā something that the company has no part in?
What does the āprotestā resolve at a Whole Foods? Does it make other people who are just trying to live uncomfortable to be confronted with something that is ultimately politically charged when they just want to buy some fucking frozen pizzaās and milk for their family?
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If the Westboro Baptist Church or Scientologists set fire to all the neighboring black homes in their areaā¦ and you went to Whole Foods to protest that actā¦ Do you think that would be effective? Do you think it would be meaningful? Wouldnāt you rather see them protest where it matters? Like I dunnoā¦ At the organization that actually created the problem or is actively participating in the problem?
Since a job is effectively selling your time to work for a company in return for compensation itās fair to the company to violate their policies while theyāre paying you?
You talk about morals beforeā¦ but cheating a company out of the contract that you signed seems pretty scummy. Like Iāve said beforeā¦ find another job if the morals of the company doesnāt align with your own.
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Rightā¦ So what does THAT [or any reallyā¦] particular Whole Foods have anything to do with BLM? So why protest while youāre working? Does it make sense to WORK for the people youāre apparently protesting against? Thatās a bit counter-intuitiveā¦
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/09/black-lives-matter-pac-428403
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21306771/black-lives-matter-george-floyd-protest-michael-kazin
Soā¦ You sure about that? I can provide more if youād likeā¦
When youāve sold your time to someone else, it shouldnāt be done at all. Or at the very least with their blessing/permission.
The same ones you would if you lives near me. Thereās plenty of jobs to have. Literally have access to dozens of jobs at several different wage points within walking distance of me. Theyāve been publicly advertising the need for workers desperately for years at this point. But seeā¦ you seem to be too entitled to just follow a simple fucking dress codeā¦ so many places probably wont want to hire you since youāre unable to follow simple policies. If your job, whatever it isā¦ decided that you need to show up in khakis and a button shirt starting tomorrow with no visible writing/logos (other than maybe the tags on the clothing itself)ā¦ Is that racism? Would you scream that theyāre being unfair? Or maybe they just want you to appear more professional to your customers? But this is a different problem all together. Being desirable by companies usually means you play by their rules in regards to the time youāre working for them.
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If you say soā¦ I actually would appreciate actual discussion on the matter. But a lot of what youāve posted has instead been ad hominemā¦ which is disappointing.
I donāt give a shit about ārulesā. I just donāt understand why you work somewhereā¦ agreeing to abide by their policiesā¦ just to surprise pikachu when then actually enforce their policies? Then decide to try to sue the company for applying their policies fairly?
Further I donāt understand people like you going out of their way to claim itās racismā¦
That violates the contract/policies that you agree to in order to work thereā¦ Like you said. Itās just a pin. (even though before you were saying itās much more than the pin/mask). I mean thatās been my point all along. Itās just a pin and ultimately means nothing on itās own. Should they be allowed to wear a NAMBLA pin (not comparing the organizationsā¦ Just proving a point)?
I donāt think that a pin/design on a mask attests to ANYONEās character. Nor if they even understand/agree with whatās on the pin/mask. I have a shirt that I wear sometimes with āNational Pro Fastpitchāā¦ Iāve never been part of the organization, nor do I even know what it is.
Which wearing a pin is neither protest nor strikeā¦ But do you agree that if people came to workā¦ And held up signs all day about BLMā¦ would the company then be fine to fire those people? What makes it any different then wearing that sign all day long? To your point earlierā¦ Iāll entertain for a moment that it could be a protest.
So the company must suffer it (even if itās simply just as little suffering as an employee not following a legal policy)? While paying you to do it? Imagine you paying someone to do something explicitly against the contract they signedā¦ Then taking you to court and winning. This is not how a functional society works.
Nah, Iām good. Peopleās lives before me doesnāt make me who I amā¦ Iām me in spite of that.
I do also want to revisit one other thing you brought up beforeā¦
So if I prefer music like Spiritbox, Sleep Token, etcā¦ Do you stand by the logic that I shouldnāt be allowed to blare my music while Iām working? Should I have to go into an Albertsonās and listen to WAP blaring on some portable speakers or through their headphones? I mean, thatās who they are right?
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Thanks for proving my point.
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Yesā¦ So can you answer ANY question I posed? Or are you just going to post unrelated images?
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So thatās a no then?