Climate activists from Last Generation disrupted Munich airport by gluing themselves to a runway, leading to flight cancellations and delays over a busy weekend.

Climate activists from Last Generation disrupted Munich airport by gluing themselves to a runway, leading to flight cancellations and delays over a busy weekend.

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  • InternetPerson@lemmings.world
    10·
    7 months ago

    a. self-mangling is a good way to discourage sympathy or participation b. disrupting a bunch of random travelers, and actually endangering them […] not helpful in getting sympathy for the cause… just press coverage… which will be mostly negative. […]
    it’s so fucking stupid and counter productive

    The jury is still out on that. I’ve found research and surveys pointing in both directions. The positive and negative effects of such forms of protest are not sufficiently studied yet. Also historically, there are good examples for both.

    Therefore, I wouldn’t judge yet.

    actually endangering them because planes are in the air and need to land

    From what I know about that activist group, they always ensure safety. On street blockages, they make room for ambulances, they also inform emergency services.
    I haven’t looked it up for this case, but I can imagine, that they considered this.
    I think, planes usually have enough fuel to land at another airport for such cases. There are emergency protocols for stuff like that anyway. So no one is really endagered here. Just inconvenienced.

    c. there are a lot more direct ways to cause disruption, and a lot more sympathetic, less self-harming tactics to get press coverage

    What do you have in mind?

    e. did i mention it even fucks up the activists physically!!!

    Not really though.
    Despite that, every member knows the risk. They know what they are doing. They are not stupid and think about such protest actions thoroughly.

      • InternetPerson@lemmings.world
        3·
        7 months ago

        i don’t need to present an alternative to glueing yourself to things….

        I’ve had this kind of talk a lot of times. And when it actually comes to “those alternatives”, which critics say activists should pursue instead, one common reaction is silence, as they are lacking ideas about those.
        I’ll leave you with that.

        the jury is not out on that…

        As far as I know, it is. If there are new studies, which I don’t know of and which come to a clear conclusion, I’d be thankful if you could link them here.

        and i don’t really care about your opinions pretending like you’ve read research about how effective gluing yourself to things it….

        Well, that’s your decision. If you don’t believe in facts, then don’t. But then it’s not surprising if people call you out on that, if you don’t provide proof for your position.
        If you’re interested – which you don’t seem to be – I’ll happily share the studies, historical examples, reports and surveys I’ve collected on that topic.

        it’s honestly pretty fucking evil of you to promote it.

        I didn’t promote it. Maybe you can explain what gave you the impression?

        nobody should hurt themselves to spread your political message.

        I agree that nobody should hurt themselves. Although I can understand if people see themselves driven to such measures out of desperation and/or in order to prevent worse.
        Regarding that activist group “Letzte Generation”, I couldn’t find any reports about injuries due to glueing.

        Also I wonder where you get the “your political message” from as I didn’t make any statement about my political stance on that.

                  • InternetPerson@lemmings.world
                    21·
                    7 months ago

                    We seem to have reached a point where our conversation is no longer productive. As I value respectful and constructive dialogue, continuing appears no longer beneficial. Thank you for sharing your perspective. I hope we can engage more positively in the future, so let me know if you feel interested at some point in the future. Take care.