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livewithinyourmemes@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    We already know this technology works

    Factually inaccurate

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      Prove it.

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        Fuel Cells Are Not the Problem, the Hydrogen Fuel Is

        If you were familiar with the technology, you’d understand why it has failed to come to market for so long. You need enormous subsidies to sell vehicles and even then you cannot efficiently produce “Green H2”

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          We were talking about direct carbon capture in this thread. Hydrogen was a separate topic.

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            Carbon Capture costs are far higher than reducing emissions with each ton of carbon costing between $230 and $540.

            Halting emissions is the most efficient method of reducing total emissions. Capture is extraordinarily expensive and inefficient, particularly when you’re still using carbon-based infrastructure to power compressors.

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              So just because it’s expensive right now means we shouldn’t do it or research it? Now you sound like the people advocating against renewables.

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                So just because it’s expensive right now

                This isn’t a “right now” issue. Its been an ongoing problem since the '90s. And yes, throwing 10x your investment in a working solution on a speculative technology for 35 years running is a bad idea.

                Now you sound like the people advocating against renewables.

                The O&G industry has been the primary promoter of fuel cell technology. They never deliver and they’ve had far more money and time to work on this problem than the nascent solar and wind industries.

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                  Why do you keep changing the topic to hydrogen?

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                    Two different conversations.

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