• Alsephina@lemmy.mlOP
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    7 months ago

    Vocal participation in a genocidal system is endorsement of it. You can’t tell people to vote for one of the parties of Capital one year and then suddenly tell people that actually it needs to be overthrown and think that’s going to happen 5 years later.

    At some point you have to commit to it being “broken” (actually working as intended of course) and organize based entirely on the fact that it is and can not be supported in any way whatsoever. We’re long past that point with the “lesser evil” party currently committing genocide.

    Successful revolutions in the past have used elections primarily as a way to show the size of the movement, never by endorsing a party of Capital.

    Organize. Endorsing a genocidal party won’t stop them from committing genocide.

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        6 months ago

        Stop gaslighting people. They said it’s time to march and protest and you still accuse them as if they’re participating in the system. We want both of them out. This is how movements for change start.

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          6 months ago

          We want both of them out.

          Reality check: one of them is going to be elected president in November. Your wants will not change that.

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            6 months ago

            I won’t accept that, and will march and protest loudly to try to stop it.

            What are you gonna do, sick the cops on me to protect the establishment bastards?

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              6 months ago

              What are you gonna do

              Continue to shame you for ignoring reality and advocating for Worse to spite Bad.

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                6 months ago

                Classic lib take - attack the voters, because the current admin’s terrible policies are clearly their fault.

                Repugs and Dems aren’t the only candidates on the ballot, and thankfully I can vote for someone who has policy positions much more aligned with my interests. Perhaps you can too, think about it. Or vote for more genocide, it’s your choice.

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                  6 months ago

                  Repugs and Dems aren’t the only candidates on the ballot

                  They are the only candidates that will win under FPTP

                  thankfully I can vote for someone who has policy positions much more aligned with my interests

                  Yup, you can virtue signal all you like. That’s freedom, baby!

                  Or vote for more genocide, it’s your choice.

                  Nah, I’ll stick to advocating against genocide++

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                    6 months ago

                    I’ve seen a lot of your comments around, preaching the truth about FPTP, and they are often downvoted into the negatives. But you persist.

                    I just want to commend you and say that you have more patience than I do. Keep up the good work.

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        6 months ago

        Yup, this commerad (the one you’re responding to) is 100% okay with fascism it seems.

        Better to allow the group that locks up protestors, doesn’t convict anti fascist murderers, kills minorities, and actively surpresses the ability to vote, than vote for “the lesser of 2 evils”. I’m not saying they’re Russian, or Republican, but they’re saying the same things as those groups.

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          6 months ago

          Currently the Biden administration is locking up protesters, not convicting FASCIST murderers, killing minorities, and suppressing the ability to vote, all right now. If you want to continue with the liberal policy of pretending everything’s okay go ahead, but don’t give us shit for trying to do something about it, sit down and shut up King.