That’s not true. Bidens changes may get tighter, but the logic of what I said is consistent. Vote for anyone but Biden, and you increase the chances of trump.
The question is not whether you like or don’t like Biden. The question is not about the morals of lesser evilism. The question is about is the left going to be able to organise in the future, or is it going to get crushed by force. Is that an end result you can get behind that might justify the means of *checks notes* spending five minutes to do the possible within the limits of the current material conditions, i.e. turn up to the fucking ballot booth.
Biden’s blown any chance he had. You’ve got a better chance of getting Maryanne Williamson into office.
Who? I mean sorry I’m European but if I haven’t heard of her no she doesn’t have a chance. Ballots aren’t decided by policy, first and foremost they’re a popularity contest and the first step in that is be known. Second step, make sure people believe you can win, appear to have enough support to actually be worth a shot. Then policy comes into play. Biden has the first two nailed down because institutional inertia, policy don’t matter if your other candidate doesn’t reach that bar.
Biden fucking sucks. This is true.
Unfortunately, vote for anyone else, or even don’t vote at all, and you increase the chance of bringing us someone who will turn the dial up to 11.
A month ago, I would agree with you.
Not after this week.
Biden’s blown any chance he had. You’ve got a better chance of getting Maryanne Williamson into office.
That’s not true. Bidens changes may get tighter, but the logic of what I said is consistent. Vote for anyone but Biden, and you increase the chances of trump.
Biden was floundering in December/ January. He had a strong state of the Union.
He’s doing worse now then he’s ever done. He’s in an actual tailspin.
You are not better off supporting Biden. You are better off finding another candidate.
Again, nothing I said is wrong. You seem to struggle with the core concept, and are just applying your own.
Regarding your concept, it’s comical to suggest another candidate in this month of this year, who is not the dnc or rnc nominee.
Any other candidate is a spoiler for one of the leaders
Not if the candidate you’ve presumed can’t win.
Biden can’t win. He’s fucked himself too hard at this point. Its over for him.
Voting for arguing for Biden is basically supporting Trump.
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Lemme know when it clicks for you that, even if Biden is projected to win-lose-draw, voting for someone else reduces Biden-votes.
You have two options: You can voter for a guaranteed loss, or you can take a bet on a low probability of winning.
Which is the better bet? Biden can’t win Michigan unless he 180’s on Gaza. He’s shown nothing to indicate he’s going to 180 on Gaza.
When we get Trump, it will have been your cultish misunderstanding of how voting works that was the cause.
Ok so not yet. Keep trying! Still not my point!
Again, to your point, since this is about you now: If Biden loses, it’s not going to be trump 80% Biden 11%, your magic 3rd party candidate 9%.
It would be more like, say, even favorably situating your position: trump 55%, Biden 40%, 3rd 5%.
So voting for your 3rd isn’t going to move them from 5%, to 45+%.
If you want to build such a candidate, the work has to start now, but for the next election.
Edit by your logic the low probability of winning is Biden, and the guaranteed loss is the 3rd party.
The question is not whether you like or don’t like Biden. The question is not about the morals of lesser evilism. The question is about is the left going to be able to organise in the future, or is it going to get crushed by force. Is that an end result you can get behind that might justify the means of *checks notes* spending five minutes to do the possible within the limits of the current material conditions, i.e. turn up to the fucking ballot booth.
Who? I mean sorry I’m European but if I haven’t heard of her no she doesn’t have a chance. Ballots aren’t decided by policy, first and foremost they’re a popularity contest and the first step in that is be known. Second step, make sure people believe you can win, appear to have enough support to actually be worth a shot. Then policy comes into play. Biden has the first two nailed down because institutional inertia, policy don’t matter if your other candidate doesn’t reach that bar.