Watch Democrats Abdullah Hammoud and Keith Ellison in a unique 2024 Zeteo debate.

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    7 months ago

    Meanwhile, Biden’s opposition literally attempted to ban Muslims from entering the country during his previous stint.

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      7 months ago

      So what? Why should that even enter the conversation when we’re talking about an active GENOCIDE?

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        7 months ago

        People can have more than one thing they consider important, you know. “This one thing that matters to me is happening, no other events are relevant” is a poor mindset, IMO.

        Besides, would Trump be handling Israel any better than Biden? Does he have some soft spot for Gaza that we’re all unaware of? Because I’m pretty sure he’s been sucking Netanyahu’s dick for years already, too.

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          When that one thing is a genocide, I think it’s pretty fair to focus on. We’re not talking about our candidate’s favorite flavor of ice cream.

          If neither candidate will stop the genocide, it’s our responsibility to refuse both candidates. Voting for Hindenburg didn’t stop the Holocaust.

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            If neither candidate will stop the genocide, it’s our responsibility to refuse both candidates.

            Okay, well reality doesn’t really afford us this option, as much as we’d like it. We can piss and moan all day about what we should do, but that’s a separate discussion from what we can do. And what we can do is make our votes be as impactful as possible with the options we have available.

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              7 months ago

              You can do much more than vote. There’s people getting beat to shit by cops all over the country proving it.

              This whole ‘you have a moral obligation to vote for 99% Hitler’ thing is pretty tired, as the logical conclusion of that line of reasoning is that you should vote for Hitler if anyone worse than Hitler is on the ballot.

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                7 months ago

                You can do much more than vote.

                Right, but this is specifically about the election, where the one and only thing you can do is vote. At the end of the day, we’re all still looking at the same two options on the ballot, that part isn’t changing.

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                  7 months ago

                  All appearances to the contrary, I am going to vote. I’m voting for the PSL candidate, Claudia de la Cruz, because she does not support genocide.

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                    7 months ago

                    Oh, you believe in the viability of a third party vote in 2024. Sorry, I thought I was taking to a serious person, my bad.