• @I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    221 month ago

    No one is arguing a little genocide is good. They’re arguing that a lot of genocide is clearly worse. This seems obvious, but I’m constantly surprised how fucking stupid people are.

    • mozz
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      1 month ago

      They are not stupid; they are deliberately misunderstanding.

      I feel a little bit silly even trying to “explain” this like there will be anyone who’s informed by it, but no one here is pro genocide. I would be surprised if you could find 5 people on Lemmy ever who said that genocide is good if done by Democrats, or at any other time.

      Here is where to find a protest; go there and meet some new friends, do what you can to stop the genocide. How to do it, I don’t really know, but posting on Lemmy about not voting for Biden will not accomplish it for a couple of different reasons.

      • archomrade [he/him]OP
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        -111 month ago

        “Go to this place and keep your protest away from my peaceful politics-free community.”

        It is certainly not the case that people here need any encouragement to be louder about not wanting their candidate supporting genocide.

        I edited it for the both of you to make if more fair, hopefully you don’t still take issue with the framing

        • mozz
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          91 month ago

          You claim that I think genocide is fine, and then hope I don’t take issue with the framing?

          This is a very bizarre conversation

          • archomrade [he/him]OP
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            -91 month ago

            I’m not saying you think it’s fine, i’m saying you need to convince no-genocide voters that it’s at least acceptable.

            • themeatbridge
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              101 month ago

              It’s not acceptable. There are a lot of people arguing that it is not genocide, but there are zero people arguing that any genocide is acceptable.

              • archomrade [he/him]OP
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                -111 month ago

                Acceptable in exchange for less of it?

                I’m really trying to work with you here. You are all here spending time on communicating something, what is it you’re trying to do by it?

                If it isn’t to convince people on the fence about Biden because of his support of Israel, what is it exactly?

      • @stanleytweedle@lemmy.world
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        111 month ago

        What if the buttons were (and kinda are) “Palestinian genocide with survivors” or “Palestinian and Ukrainian genocide with no survivors”?

        • archomrade [he/him]OP
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          -101 month ago

          If your willing to accept a little genocide in exchange for not having to convince anyone of anything, sure

          Wait actually is this you convincing no-genocide voters that a little genocide is fine? Woa that was slick!

          • Oh yeah *just *convince the Democrats. Sure thing, I’ll have it done by Tuesday. Honestly I feel stupid for not thinking of just convincing them. Why has no one tried this before? /S

            • archomrade [he/him]OP
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              -101 month ago

              Good luck convincing enough people that a little genocide is fine to win against trump.

                • archomrade [he/him]OP
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                  -41 month ago

                  Believe me, I’m not rooting for it (or don’t, Idgaf).

                  Democrats are more principled than Trump voters though, if one party can survive running on it it’s not the democrats.

          • @stanleytweedle@lemmy.world
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            81 month ago

            What is a ‘little genocide’? I thought your whole shtick was that genocide was genocide and ‘less’ is still genocide.

            Are you conceding that there are degrees and less is better than more?

            • archomrade [he/him]OP
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              -81 month ago

              Are you conceding that there’s a choice between convincing people genocide is ok vs convincing democrats it’s not, and you’d prefer the former?

              • @stanleytweedle@lemmy.world
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                111 month ago

                Voting is the only binary choice. You can do whatever other ‘choices’ you’re babbling about at the same time if you want.

                • archomrade [he/him]OP
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                  -81 month ago

                  That’s not a terrible idea actually, work it from both ends.

                  Unless you care about the substance of the issue, but if not then go nuts.

                  • @stanleytweedle@lemmy.world
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                    1 month ago

                    The substance of the issue for me is saving Palestinian lives which is one of the many reasons I’m voting for Biden in 2024.