• @grue@lemmy.world
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    481 month ago

    Recycling is literally the least important thing you can do (despite still being important).

    The phrase “refuse, reduce, reuse, repurpose, recycle” is listed in order of importance.

    • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      321 month ago

      I hate that they added more shit. “Reduce, reuse, recycle” was perfect.

      “refuse” is literally the same thing as “reduce”

      “repurpose” is a subset of “recycle”

      What the fuck is it nowadays with wanting to tack on more useless shit to perfect mnemonics? Especially for a mnemonic whose entire point is to prevent wastefulness.

      • @snooggums@midwest.social
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        101 month ago

        “repurpose” is a subset of “recycle”

        Repurpose is reuse, just for a different use than originally intended.

        Your point about reduce, reuse, recycle being enough is absolutely correct and all I ever hear about is the recycle part which is counterproductive when it is used to justify mass consumption and disposable products.

      • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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        31 month ago

        I’d think ‘repurpose’ is part of ‘reuse’ rather than recycle. Doesn’t recycle mean that you’re going to destroy the object to extract its raw resources to be made into a new product? Whereas ‘reuse’ just means that you are going to use it again. I’d say ‘repurpose’ means you are going to use it again, but not in the same way it was used the first time.

        In any case, I agree that the added words are unnecessary. Maybe they were added to deliberately weaken the slogan. Sometimes people deliberately try to make sustainable living sound like a lot of work, by adding a whole lot of extra steps and conditions.

        • BlanketsWithSmallpox
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          21 month ago

          Repurpose is also similar to recycle though.

          Because recycling’s entire point is to repurpose it into something else…

          Which might be why people also want repurpose… but I’m old and RRR is better than RRRRR. A mnemonics entire point is ease of memory.

          Recycle reuse damnit!

    • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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      141 month ago

      It is also important to mention that most plastic recycling still ends up in landfills. Plastic recycling was sold as myth by big oil and plastics companies to make consumers think the waste problems magically disappeared.

          • @grue@lemmy.world
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            111 month ago

            I mean, it’s really more of an intuitive kind of thing: recycling takes more than zero energy, while refusing or reducing take less than zero.

            • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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              -91 month ago

              Okay, let’s look at it again: refuse - not buying it at all reduce - buy less reuse - use a thing multiple times for the same purpose repurpose - use a thing for a different purpose recycle - recovering (parts) of things

              Why is buying less, without even specifying how much, automatically better than recycling (more of) the mountain of stuff anyone uses to live? (Note the indirect impact too, just because someone is rich and can outsource their impact does not make the net impact lower)

              Also, many would see reuse and repurpose as forms of recycling. Like making trash bags from recycled plastic.

              This is a complex topic and everything but simple.

              • @ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml
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                41 month ago

                Why is buying less automatically better than recycling the mountain of stuff anyone uses to live?

                Why is it better to make a smaller mountain of trash rather than figure out what to do with that trash?

                The point is that dealing with trash takes time and energy, and if you want to be efficient about it you’d try to make as little trash as possible so you don’t need to deal with it later. You might not see much of a benefit on an individual scale, but across an entire city it can make a huge difference.

                If you’re still not getting it, just compare the EPA’s website for Reduce and Reuse versus Recycle

                The most effective way to reduce waste is to not create it in the first place. Making a new product emits greenhouse gases that contribute to climate change and requires a lot of materials and energy - raw materials must be extracted from the earth, and the product must be fabricated then transported to wherever it will be sold. As a result, reduction and reuse are the most effective ways you can save natural resources, protect the environment and save money.

                Recycling is the process of collecting and processing materials that would otherwise be thrown away as trash and turning them into new products. Recycling can benefit your community, the economy, and the environment. Products should only be recycled if they cannot be reduced or reused. EPA promotes the waste management hierarchy, which ranks various waste management strategies from most to least environmentally preferred. The hierarchy prioritizes source reduction and the reuse of waste materials over recycling.

        • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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          -31 month ago

          Recycling is not at the bottom there and generally it is not the same argument (not showing the different impacts of these things).

          • @realbadat@programming.dev
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            61 month ago

            The bottom is disposal, and recovery is energy recovery - as in, burning it. Part of the disposal process.

            Yes, recycling is the bottom for what individuals can do.