• RubberDuck
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    82 months ago

    Well as proven with mh17 the buks are pretty good at taking down airliners.

    • @ours@lemmy.world
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      32 months ago

      Such a system can shoot at a maximum range of 30km. How many refineries and ammo depots does Russia have to protect? It’s a huge bloody country which makes it very hard to cover with radar and air defence.

      The edge that allowed Russia to win against powerful invading armies bites them in the ass here. So much real estate is hard and expensive to protect.

      During the height of the Cold War, a kid flew across Europe in a small, slow plane and landed on the damn Red Square. Another guy landed a helicopter on the White House lawn.

      • RubberDuck
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        Buk is 50km, but s300 already over 100 and s400 does 400km range. And for even shorter range you have pantsir and shilka.

        But indeed, so much real estate. And the refineries are very vulnerable.

        Can you imagine… at this development pace in a year suck a plane will carry 10 autonomous drones with thermite charges that deploy on target and spread even more chaos.

        • @ours@lemmy.world
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          72 months ago

          The asymmetry between the cost of defense vs. offense here is absurd.

          The operation of air defense networks, missiles, and fighter jet interceptions, all to try to down kit aircraft costing less than the average Porsche sports car. Fancy-pantsy capabilities that required billions not long ago can be had for cheap. It’s no longer the exclusive realm of low-flying supersonic or stealth aircraft to strike the heart of the enemy. What required billions of R&D can be somewhat achieved on the cheap.

          • @RidderSport@feddit.de
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            42 months ago

            Well no. The cost of defence is not actually what pricetag the system is you use to shoot something done. It is what you are defending and an oil refinery is probably in the hundreds of millions, literally a high-profile target

            • @fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee
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              22 months ago

              Yeah, spending a hundred thousand to take out a refinery cracker is an amazing trade. What’s a cracker worth, a few tens of millions? Plus lost production etc