The monotheistic all powerful one.

  • Daft_ish@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    An all powerful god couldn’t taste the color blue? First, synesthesia exists. Second, the judeo/christain god “smells prayers.”

    Also, god died… in the Bible. Anyway w/e. You don’t strike me as someone I want to interact with.

    • balderdash@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      8 months ago

      The specific example doesn’t matter much. Google “category error” or read the comment below where I explain the response in more detail.

      You don’t strike me as someone I want to interact with.

      It’s not like I’m trolling. This stuff is philosophy of religion 101. But, you are, of course, always free to ignore information that contradicts your world view.

      • HopingForBetter
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        This stuff is not philosophy of religion 101, though it might be one seminary professor’s lesson notes in systematic theology for christianity. Specific religions will typically have mental gymnastics or say things like, “It’s just too complicated to understand with our limited capacity as mortals.”

        Given a being exists outside of this reality, the laws of this reality do not apply to it. And given a being created this reality, that being can do whatever it wants, regardless of this reality and it’s laws. So the paradox still stands.

        • balderdash@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          8 months ago

          Given a being exists outside of this reality, the laws of this reality do not apply to it.

          When we assume a contradiction is true (e.g., God is immutable and God is not immutable: P ^ -P), then we can derive any proposition and it’s negation from that contradiction.

          1. P ∧ -P
          2. P     (1)
          3. -P     (1)
          4. P ∨ X     (2)
          5. X     (3, 4)
          6. P ∨ -X     (2)
          7. -X     (3, 6)

          If God can make a contradiction true, then every other proposition whatsoever can be proven true and false at the same time. We can infer the following: 1) All questions about God are useless because God is now beyond reason/logic and 2) Reason itself would lose all applicability as logic, necessity, mathematics, etc. can no longer be taken for granted. These seem like untenable consequences. We have, however, an alternate conception of God’s omnipotence that doesn’t force us to abandon reason/logic.

          • HopingForBetter
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 months ago

            So, what you’re saying is, if it doesn’t fit our logic, we have to make up a logic so it fits our logic?

            • balderdash@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 months ago

              There are different logics that account for temporality, modality (e.g., necessity), degrees of true, etc. But I doubt there’s any logic we could construct that can account for the inconceivable and the impossible being possible. Human reason throws up its hands and sits in the corner.