Porn sites must have government health warning in Texas from September 1st::Just when we didn’t think the state of Texas could get any more wacko on tech policy, this latest bill really suggests otherwise. House Bill 1181 is an age verification measure that is similar to what we’ve seen in the state legislatures across other red U.S. states. You have an age verification proposal that is similar…

  • @arin@lemmy.world
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    3911 months ago

    What’s an example of a health warning for looking at naked humans? Seriously someone explain what they mean because it doesn’t make any sense.

    • @1984
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      11 months ago

      Porn is just not naked humans. It’s not like art. And the behavior in those movies rubs off on teenage guys, so they start to behave like in the movies.

      I mean, I still think adding health warning is stupid, but at the same time, we can’t pretend porn doesn’t influence people.

      • @lingh0e@lemmy.film
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        4311 months ago

        The behavior of the actors in porn does not “rub off on” (lol) on the viewer any more than violent movies rub off on the viewer.

        I’d be more concerned about the guys watching the assholes on YouTube making videos about how to be an “alpha male”.

        • @1984
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          611 months ago

          You are actually wrong about that. Do some web searches on it and you will see.

          • @lingh0e@lemmy.film
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            3911 months ago

            That’s not how it works. If you are making the claim, it’s your responsibility to back that claim up with supporting information.

            • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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              611 months ago

              IMO it’s everyone’s responsibility to themselves to challenge and research things that they want to know the truth about. If the other poster is correct but has no desire to follow up with it, they will still be correct.

              The burden of proof is on those who want to know the truth. Unless it’s in a court of law, though even there, IMO the adversarial system is outdated and if someone is innocent, the prosecution and police should be working to determine that, not just trying to prove guilt at all costs.

              • @Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip
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                1611 months ago

                The burden of proof is on those who want to know the truth

                The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. No exceptions.

                • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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                  211 months ago

                  It’s an internet conversion, there’s no burden on anyone unless they have a goal. Wanting to convince others puts the burden on the one making the claim, but if they aren’t interested in putting that much effort into it, that doesn’t invalidate the claim, which talking about the burden of proof being on anyone else is trying to do.

                  Even if someone does make the effort to prove something, if knowing the truth is important to you, you should look at other perspectives.

                  • @1984
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                    11 months ago

                    This is exactly how I think about things also. Which is why I dropped this conversation. But it’s a fact that porn changes the perception of sex to a huge degree. But young guys don’t even see it because they don’t have any previous experience without porn to compare to.

              • @lingh0e@lemmy.film
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                1311 months ago

                I don’t disagree with you, which is why I’m hoping the person I replied to, who told me to “do some searches” actually does some for themselves. So hopefully they can learn that there’s hardly an epidemic of porn viewing related risks to physical/mental health. I’m not saying there are zero, I’m simply saying that it’s not at all occurring at levels worthy of mandating warnings.

                • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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                  311 months ago

                  Fair enough. Personally I think it’s hard to study because of how ubiquitous it is. There isn’t really a control group that is representative of the general population. I do think it’s physiologically addictive (just like everything else that is enjoyable or gives a dopamine reward), which could mean some will spend more time with it than they should. But for the rest, it’s hard to say if behaviours and attitudes come from the porn or if they are in porn because that’s just how some people approach sex.

                  And from a personal perspective, there’s been plenty of times while watching porn that I’ve thought, “ok, this might be hot but holy fuck that guy is a piece of shit”. Which I think indicates that there is some bad porn out there but also indicates I’m not some brainless drone that thinks, “I’m seeing this in a video, therefore it is good”.

                  • @SCB@lemmy.world
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                    911 months ago

                    everything that gives a dopamine reward is addictive

                    You could just say you don’t know what “addictive” means

                  • Riskable
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                    611 months ago

                    I think it’s hard to study because of how ubiquitous it is

                    Ubiquitous things are the easiest to study. Unless you think there’s a lack of a control group?

                    Doing a napkin-level study on this comment thread I think we can conclude that believing that viewing porn is somehow dangerous is a very unpopular opinion that isn’t widely backed by evidence. Therefore, it is healthier to rub those anti-porn thoughts out and/or get some hard science pounded into you.

                  • @solstice@lemmy.world
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                    411 months ago

                    Pretty sure some universities have tried to do studies but, just like you said, they couldn’t find enough people for the “does not watch porn” control group.

          • @jaye@lemmy.world
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            711 months ago

            Just because you thought something from a porn video was a good idea doesn’t mean everyone else does.

            • @arin@lemmy.world
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              511 months ago

              LMAO seriously. Hope this guy doesn’t watch any crime TV shows either holy fuck.

      • Riskable
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        911 months ago

        the behavior in those movies rubs off on teenage guys, so they start to behave like in the movies.

        I haven’t seen a teenage pizza delivery driver in ages! They also aren’t going into marine biology to train octopuses!

        You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about 😁

        • Final Remix
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          1611 months ago

          “Warning: Any activity or substance that causes a rush of dopamine, serotonin, and/or oxytocin may lead to behavioral or psychological dependence on said substance or activity.” ?

          • @MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world
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            411 months ago

            Thats actually reasonable. I think people are largely unaware of their own brain plasticity and how much any type of input affects our outlook and actions.

            • @PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world
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              1311 months ago

              Sure, but putting it on porn and not other things that make people feel good is just pathologizing sexuality in order to shame people.

              • @MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world
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                511 months ago

                Yea that’s fair. I feel like the issue lies in education tbh. Our schools don’t teach us much about practical things like the relationship between external and internal forces. I’m not for these types of warnings, I just thought that was reasonable compared to what I was expecting lol

      • XIIIesq
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        1311 months ago

        I have years worth of proof that shows your statement to be false.

      • @theangryseal@lemmy.world
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        I don’t know why, but I started hhwackin’ it when I was about 3 years old.

        I didn’t have anything in mind really. I just remember it felt good and for some reason (probably something my mom said) I just thought of the word “nasty” and that’s what got me going. Like, the word was my OG porn.

        Well, I had this giant Clifford the Big Red Dog plush. It was huge. I was hiding behind it one day hwackin’ when my mom went looking for me to show her friend how cute I was. Well, her friend seen me hwackin’. She was embarrassed as hell. They wanted to put a stop to it, so my father decided he knew what would work.

        “Son, you keep playing with that thing and it’s gonna fall off and you’ll turn into a girl.”

        I thought, “Wait, girls don’t have a wee wee? Ohhhhhh!”

        So now I had an image in mind that worked me up. It was girls, naked, nothing down there, walking without bending their knees. Kind of like walking a pair of scissors. Don’t ask me why. I don’t know.

        So while I’m ranting. My mom got a new house. My aunt and my twin cousins came down with us to look at the place. The one said “mommy, I gotta pee.” The other chimed in, she had to pee too. I had a theory about how girls peed, but I really really wanted to know. I turned to my little brother, “littleseal, this is our chance. We can see how girls pee.”

        So we snuck around the corner. My aunt was holding them up in the air, one hanging from one arm, one hanging from the other. We seen them from behind, and it appeared that the pee was coming from the butt. I grabbed my little brother by the shoulders. “LITTLESEAL! GIRLS PEE FROM THEIR BUTTS! I knew it!” We giggled about it for awhile. Like, way too long.

        Fast forward a few years and I was living in a new neighborhood. Me and the girl next door were playing fetch with her dog. I had to pee. She said, “Can I watch? I want to know how boys do it.” I said, “Sure. We do it with our wieners. We don’t have to sit down so we can pee anywhere. I’m glad I don’t pee out of my butt.” She said, “Who pees from their butt?” She was laughing at me like I was crazy. I said, “Girls do! I seen it.” “Well I don’t know what girl you seen, but I pee from my vagina, I poop from my butt.”

        She said, “come on. I’ll show you.”

        I was blown away. Later on it hit me. “Oh my god! It makes sense. That’s why I have a wiener. It’s for sex!”

        Sorry to go on. Your comment made me remember being afraid my wee wee would fall off and then took me down memory lane.

        Get off my lawn. See you next time.

    • @Saneless@lemmy.world
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      411 months ago

      “Temporary blood pressure increases or decreases blood availability in the brain and other organs” should fit the bill