You do all of us a great dishonor with your genocide. We should not invade and kill. Give them back the land and in time once we all heal our wounds maybe we can look at peacefully living side by side with our Palestinian brothers as one country, but that can never happen while the state of Israel exists as it currently does.
That which is hateful to you, do not do to another. You know this, now go study and be better.
Let me ask you. What would be an appropriate response to terrorists coming across your border, killing and raping your citizens. I agree that Israel is taking it too far, but what would be an appropriate response to an attack on your country by people who want your country to be wiped from the map?
LOL, let me know when you grow up and have more experience in international politics. “Oh no, Japan bombed Pearl Harbor…better start up an investigation” WTF?
I have heard this a lot (“Israel’s right to exist”) and it makes me wonder, why does Israel have a right to exist? This is an honest question and I hope someone can answer it (and not answer with a question, just facts please). A lot of people, including those who ask that question, seem to have low confidence in Israel’s right to exist. Like they need other people to confirm it.
Edit: Israel is literally the only country that I have ever heard people talk about it’s “right to exist”. Why is that?
I suppose you could take that argument and turn it on any country/people and question their right to exist. Looking around at what we’ve done to this world, it would be pretty easy to make an argument that humans have forfeited their right exist. You are asking for a factual answer to what is basically a philosophical question. Do Jews have a right to live in the Middle East? They are, for most realistic purposes, not allowed in all the surrounding Arab countries. Why not set up Israel in, I don’t know, uh, give them Iowa or something? Well, then you get into that fucking weird religious shit that doesn’t make any sense to me. I’m interested in hearing your thoughts on why Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.
You are asking for a factual answer to what is basically a philosophical question.
but the thing is, you brought “Israel’s right to exist” up.
I’m interested in hearing your thoughts on why Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.
I never said nor implied that Israel has or doesn’t have a “right to exist”, and what does my opinion matter on that anyway? I think the “Israel’s right to exist” argument is some kind of ad hominem fallacy, like “poisoning the well” or “appeal to motive” or some other discrediting tactic used to defend Israeli exceptionalism. Case in point: this meme (which turned out to be pretty powerful after all)- the response to “is Israel commiting war crimes” is “well you must think Israel doesn’t have a right to exist (and therefore you’re a bigot so I can ignore you)” which is complete cognitive blindness to the simple idea of investigating possible war crimes. It always goes to ad hominem or whataboutism. For the record I’m not arguing with you, I just wanted to know what you think.
As evidenced by your posts lack of traffic. But by all means, keep trying.
It’s doing fine for a 2 hour post. Stay mad Zionist.
Another who doesn’t think Israel should exist.
You do all of us a great dishonor with your genocide. We should not invade and kill. Give them back the land and in time once we all heal our wounds maybe we can look at peacefully living side by side with our Palestinian brothers as one country, but that can never happen while the state of Israel exists as it currently does.
That which is hateful to you, do not do to another. You know this, now go study and be better.
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Do you think they should exist behaving as they are currently? (the government, not the citizens)
Let me ask you. What would be an appropriate response to terrorists coming across your border, killing and raping your citizens. I agree that Israel is taking it too far, but what would be an appropriate response to an attack on your country by people who want your country to be wiped from the map?
Clearly bombing as many children and journalists as possible, as any sane empathetic person would do.
If you think the casualty numbers are where they are if Israel was bombing as many children and journalists as possible you are a fucking idiot.
What is hyperbole?
>to be wiped from the map
this idiom doesn’t exist in arabic. it’s a lie.
rape is a crime. open an investigation.
murder is a crime. open an investigation.
terrorism is a crime. launch an investigation.
LOL, let me know when you grow up and have more experience in international politics. “Oh no, Japan bombed Pearl Harbor…better start up an investigation” WTF?
Any apartheid state should not exist
I hope you realize that there aren’t many Jews allowed in just about all the surrounding countries. It’s a nice platitude I suppose.
I have heard this a lot (“Israel’s right to exist”) and it makes me wonder, why does Israel have a right to exist? This is an honest question and I hope someone can answer it (and not answer with a question, just facts please). A lot of people, including those who ask that question, seem to have low confidence in Israel’s right to exist. Like they need other people to confirm it.
Edit: Israel is literally the only country that I have ever heard people talk about it’s “right to exist”. Why is that?
I suppose you could take that argument and turn it on any country/people and question their right to exist. Looking around at what we’ve done to this world, it would be pretty easy to make an argument that humans have forfeited their right exist. You are asking for a factual answer to what is basically a philosophical question. Do Jews have a right to live in the Middle East? They are, for most realistic purposes, not allowed in all the surrounding Arab countries. Why not set up Israel in, I don’t know, uh, give them Iowa or something? Well, then you get into that fucking weird religious shit that doesn’t make any sense to me. I’m interested in hearing your thoughts on why Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.
Thanks, that’s pretty much the standard answer.
but the thing is, you brought “Israel’s right to exist” up.
I never said nor implied that Israel has or doesn’t have a “right to exist”, and what does my opinion matter on that anyway? I think the “Israel’s right to exist” argument is some kind of ad hominem fallacy, like “poisoning the well” or “appeal to motive” or some other discrediting tactic used to defend Israeli exceptionalism. Case in point: this meme (which turned out to be pretty powerful after all)- the response to “is Israel commiting war crimes” is “well you must think Israel doesn’t have a right to exist (and therefore you’re a bigot so I can ignore you)” which is complete cognitive blindness to the simple idea of investigating possible war crimes. It always goes to ad hominem or whataboutism. For the record I’m not arguing with you, I just wanted to know what you think.
Nah, I just dislike stupidity.
Self-loathing isn’t healthy.
Any other scathing takes?
Any other bad takes?
No, u.