• @zikk_transport2@lemmy.world
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    3711 months ago

    Telegram is in every way better. My primary reason for prefering Telegram over anything else are bots (API specifically). I mean bots functionality is so awesome that I can’t properly describe how awesome it is. <3

    • Jannis
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      3511 months ago

      It’s not better in every way. WhatsApp is encrypted by default, Telegram not.

      • @moreeni@lemm.ee
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        3011 months ago

        Why tf is this downvoted if it’s true? Telegram’s own encryption is a joke, you can’t enable it in group chats or through desktop clients. There’s also part fo ToS that states you can’t use your own encryption in Telegram, which is pretty suspicious of a supposed privacy-friendly messenger

        • @Floufym@lemmy.world
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          1111 months ago

          Because it is not true. WhatsApp maybe encrypted but not if you allow apple/Google backup and there is multiple known cases of backdoor.

          And telegram is encrypted. The End to end encryptions has to be activated in 1 to 1 messaging if wanted. But, still, messages are encrypted for other messaging. Also, in my country my phone number is directly liked to my name, by law. As such, Telegram offer way more privacy and security than Signal or WhatsApp as there is the possibility to use a username and hide the phone number.

          And anyway, most of people don’t really care. Telegram is better as it offer way more features.

          • @yetAnotherUser@feddit.de
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            511 months ago

            WhatsApp has an e2ee backup option and according to Signal WhatsApp doesn’t have a backdoor. Telegram does not encrypt group chats, which is terrible for privacy and security. Hiding the phone number is a solid feature, I admit. But it hardly protects you from the government, especially if you become a high-profile target.

            • @lapingvino@lemmy.world
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              411 months ago

              That is the biggest reason I don’t trust Signal. They implemented Whatsapp’s encryption and while technically the encryption hasn’t been broken, the way it works forces you to leave data on your device, which has been proven dangerous in practice for the kind of people it sets out to protect.

              • @moreeni@lemm.ee
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                611 months ago

                The encryption is set out to protect people from man in the middle (server admins reading your data). If your device is compromised then nothing can help you, the attacker can just open the app

              • @Kekzkrieger@feddit.de
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                311 months ago

                no matter what security you use when the attacker gets access to your (unlocked) phone you are fucked either way.

                Data will always be on the end device unless you turn on disappearing messages which you can if you are concerned about that

    • @Pechente@feddit.de
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      1211 months ago

      People might argue you could just use Discord if you want bots but Discord is so bloated an sluggish in comparison to Telegram’s minimalist native clients for every OS (even Linux).