at first I read that one header as “We’re Not Changing”

  • @clever_banana
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    Downvoted for picture of text. Please link to the page and transcribe it if you want to post a picture too. Blind people can’t read images of text.

    • Rustmilian
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      You have a point, but you said it pretty abrasively.
      I’ve made a transcript here.

      • @clever_banana
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        Link is broken. Please add transcription to the body of the post

        • Rustmilian
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          What client are you using? I’ll try linking it in a way your client can handle.

      • Rustmilian
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        Lemmy needs to add real alt-text functionality, putting in the body works, sure; but it’s not going to work out for posts that have both post text and images in the body. Such as someone posting text along with additional screenshots.

        Alt-text should be hidden visually, but readable by screen readers.

        • Ann ArchyOP
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          Huh. Would that be a good solution, like a hover popup you mean? I’m not into CSS. Will screen readers get that? Shouldn’t be crazy difficult to make a bot otherwise, screen reader scans images for text on request by poster or automatically. We have bots here right?

          • Rustmilian
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            No. Basically just hidden/invisible text that only a screen reader would see.
            You’d just upload an image and type alt-text in a box, hit enter and the alt-text would be added to the HTML of the page but not rendered and the image would be added to the markdown as usual, when the screen reader gets to the image, instead of just skipping over it, it’d pull the hidden text from the HTML and read that.

            See HTML Accessibility.

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              That sounds like a great idea, in that case, but I know 0 about HTML, I just make systems run. Where do we go to suggest something like it? Lemmy is a whole new thing for me so…

        • @clever_banana
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          Not sure what you mean. Just type the alt in markdown

          [![alt_text_here](image.jpg)](https://example.com/some/page)
          
          • Rustmilian
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            Doing it in markdown isn’t a great solution, that’s more for hover text then anything. Having a bunch of text in markdown Alt-text clogs the hell out of the post body and makes it harder to copy the raw markdown if you’re not trying to grab a fuck load of additional text.

            See HTML Accessibility.

          • Rustmilian
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            Here’s an extreme case example why markdown isn’t great for this purpose. Also, not every client renders the markdown the same, Lemmy has no standardized markdown syntax/implementation. For example, my client won’t render your example the way you think it will; it renders the link at the end in text and has a [ before the image, and my client hates new lines in markdown alt-text. If you use \ in the alt-text, it render the image twice, and if you use a blank newline it will not render at all.

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            HTML is a pretty damn nailed down standard and can already properly handle Alt-text.

      • Ann ArchyOP
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        Dude I’m just a drunk gal with an internet connection, you would not believe the things that slip my mind on a daily basis.

        I am always respectful and try to mind, but I’m not exactly omniscient either, I can barely hold my life together know what I mean? So sorry for no subtitles, but there are tons of super cool people here who do it voluntarily so that everyone can enjoy the knowledge of how deeply we are being spied on by Google. And our fight against it!

        • It’s not an indictment of you, it’s an indictment of Lemmy. AP has alt-text in the format. AP clients - almost uniformly - have space for alt text whanever pictures are posted, and the best of the remind and encourage you to add alt text when you post pictures. Lemmy provides no facility for alt-text; for a platform developed in this century and largely populated by inclusive liberals, it’s a rather shocking omission.