I worked 5 years at a job that sucked the soul out of me as I devoted all available energy towards making sure I never got laid off, developing an entirely seperate personality that was better geared towards sales and customer satisfaction at the cost of my self-respect and personal relationships, dreading every day as though it would be the one to finally push me over the edge and convince me to end it all.
Work isn’t meant to make you healthy. The two often have a negative relationship with each other, in fact. Work is work. Let’s not pretend we’re above sex workers just because we’re not on camera while we get fucked.
Meh at least it’s a skill. Most of the “engineers” I deal with are corporate shits who have no skillset whatsoever. And take a preverse pride in not having one.
Ok that doesn’t sound like a good job, but how is that an argument that sex work is just like any other job? Have you ever had a good job? I hope you have, so you know the difference.
You need to escape your own perspective. Your comments, while seemingly well-intended, come across far more egotistical than I believe you realize.
You clearly place a lot of value on your thoughts and views, but then you don’t seem to realize that this perspective restricts you behind the lens of your own mind’s limitations (and biases). Most of the people you will encounter in your life do not think like you.
TLDR, You need to spend more time envisioning the world through the eyes of others, erasing your own existence and views. It would be enlightening if you succeeded.*
Note, some people are literally incapable of changing perspective due to how their brain functions, if that is you, please disregard.
You are either trolling, or need more time to develop as a person.
You are so locked into your own ideas that you don’t seem to realize that your ideas are subjective. You are overvaluing your own, extremely-limited perspective. Pause for a moment and do a thought experiment (everyone should do this from time to time). Say, “What if I am wrong about everything?” then just sit with that and work through what it would mean. No one can do this for you, so you may go about it a different way, but the general idea is to think, without trapping the thoughts in your web of biases.
You are responding to me as-if I talked about something I never mentioned. So not only are your own perceptions flawed, but when you speak with us, you don’t seem to hear what we are saying.
For energy reasons I can’t engage with you all day, but I hope you’ll give it some thought.
Final question, do you find it odd that in our discourse about conceptualizing, you brought up sex work? Why? That was someone else you were having that discussion with. Not me. I am talking about thinking. Ask yourself, “Do I engage with what the person is saying, or do I engage with what I tell myself they must be saying?” I suspect the latter, given our correspondences as example.
My 2 cents, you never actually specified what makes sex work any different from a “normal job”. All you offered was your opinion on the work itself, and a false equivalence about the health of the worker correlating to the work they do. Your ego is blinding you to the fact that your thesis has not been justified, and it’s also telling you you’re inherently correct due to your own preconceived ideas behind the work.
The only real difference I can think of between sex work or contract work or office work or manual work…is that the sex one has the word “sex” in it. That word is very loaded though, and we all have very different emotional reactions to it, especially with how it relates to making an income in a broken society. That difference doesn’t make sex work unique though. It does make it a prime target for folks like yourself to treat it like it’s different and worse. You really have to zoom out of yourself to put us all in the same bucket, and that’s not an easy thing to do, to be fair, so it’s not hard to imagine why you might have an opinion like yours.
It’s been interesting reading all these responses. I previously didn’t know that so many people on Lemmy see no difference between sex work and other work. Truly an interesting thread. :)
The people I’ve known in sex work tend to avoid working with those they don’t want to.
And as someone who has slept with people I didn’t find attractive with no money involved, it’s not the end of the world. If I thought I could make a living doing that, I probably would, and I would absolutely refuse service to anyone who repulsed me or that I despised.
I worked 5 years at a job that sucked the soul out of me as I devoted all available energy towards making sure I never got laid off, developing an entirely seperate personality that was better geared towards sales and customer satisfaction at the cost of my self-respect and personal relationships, dreading every day as though it would be the one to finally push me over the edge and convince me to end it all.
Work isn’t meant to make you healthy. The two often have a negative relationship with each other, in fact. Work is work. Let’s not pretend we’re above sex workers just because we’re not on camera while we get fucked.
Meh at least it’s a skill. Most of the “engineers” I deal with are corporate shits who have no skillset whatsoever. And take a preverse pride in not having one.
Ok that doesn’t sound like a good job, but how is that an argument that sex work is just like any other job? Have you ever had a good job? I hope you have, so you know the difference.
Why do you think that sex workers can’t enjoy their job?
“If you love what you do you never work a day in your life” she said moments before getting gently slapped by a giant dong
Because nobody wants to have sex with ugly people, or people you despise, and who treat you like shit.
That’s the simplest way I can express it.
You need to escape your own perspective. Your comments, while seemingly well-intended, come across far more egotistical than I believe you realize.
You clearly place a lot of value on your thoughts and views, but then you don’t seem to realize that this perspective restricts you behind the lens of your own mind’s limitations (and biases). Most of the people you will encounter in your life do not think like you.
TLDR, You need to spend more time envisioning the world through the eyes of others, erasing your own existence and views. It would be enlightening if you succeeded.*
Yeah I actually don’t understand why it’s egotistical to think sex work is not like a normal job. Seems perfectly natural to me.
Why do you think it is egotistical? Maybe if you explain, I will see the errors of my thinking.
You are either trolling, or need more time to develop as a person.
You are so locked into your own ideas that you don’t seem to realize that your ideas are subjective. You are overvaluing your own, extremely-limited perspective. Pause for a moment and do a thought experiment (everyone should do this from time to time). Say, “What if I am wrong about everything?” then just sit with that and work through what it would mean. No one can do this for you, so you may go about it a different way, but the general idea is to think, without trapping the thoughts in your web of biases.
You are responding to me as-if I talked about something I never mentioned. So not only are your own perceptions flawed, but when you speak with us, you don’t seem to hear what we are saying.
For energy reasons I can’t engage with you all day, but I hope you’ll give it some thought.
Final question, do you find it odd that in our discourse about conceptualizing, you brought up sex work? Why? That was someone else you were having that discussion with. Not me. I am talking about thinking. Ask yourself, “Do I engage with what the person is saying, or do I engage with what I tell myself they must be saying?” I suspect the latter, given our correspondences as example.
My 2 cents, you never actually specified what makes sex work any different from a “normal job”. All you offered was your opinion on the work itself, and a false equivalence about the health of the worker correlating to the work they do. Your ego is blinding you to the fact that your thesis has not been justified, and it’s also telling you you’re inherently correct due to your own preconceived ideas behind the work.
The only real difference I can think of between sex work or contract work or office work or manual work…is that the sex one has the word “sex” in it. That word is very loaded though, and we all have very different emotional reactions to it, especially with how it relates to making an income in a broken society. That difference doesn’t make sex work unique though. It does make it a prime target for folks like yourself to treat it like it’s different and worse. You really have to zoom out of yourself to put us all in the same bucket, and that’s not an easy thing to do, to be fair, so it’s not hard to imagine why you might have an opinion like yours.
It’s been interesting reading all these responses. I previously didn’t know that so many people on Lemmy see no difference between sex work and other work. Truly an interesting thread. :)
Hate fucking is actually kinda fun
The people I’ve known in sex work tend to avoid working with those they don’t want to.
And as someone who has slept with people I didn’t find attractive with no money involved, it’s not the end of the world. If I thought I could make a living doing that, I probably would, and I would absolutely refuse service to anyone who repulsed me or that I despised.