The CR-21 was a private effort to create a new rifle for the South African military in the 1990s. Bullpup designs were all the rage at the time (Austria has the AUG, France had the FAMAS, the UK had the SA80, etc), and so a company called Lyttelton Engineering Works (now part of Denel Land Systems) created a bullpup conversion design for the South African R4 (Galil). It was given a very fluid, futuristic look, and equipped with a fiber optic optic without any iron sights. The action and magazines remained original R4/Galil, however

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    Bullpups have such trash triggers, I just don’t understand how they ever caught on. I’ve handled several and hated everything about them. This looks like a bad prop for the next Alien movie.

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      Most service rifles have triggers that recreational shooters would consider bad compared to available aftermarket options. Sure AR-15s can have very nice aftermarket triggers installed, but as an example, USGI M16A4 triggers were not very good.

      Fine tuned triggers are not a major consideration for military service rifle adoption. If a bullpup is being primarily designed as a service rifle, the ability to fine tune the trigger is similarly not a primary factor in design.

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      My theory is that the reason most bullpups have bad triggers are that they’re mostly made for militaries with military triggers.

      Companies have made decent/good bullpup triggers like the mdrx.

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        I haven’t seen that one. May have to give it a watch. The summary on IMDb sounds entertaining.

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          It’s a little odd but I really liked it. Way more original than most alien films (the genre, not “Alien”).

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            My comment had actually been about the Alien franchise, though the whole genre does have a common aesthetic.

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              Yeah I gotcha. I was just trying to clarify that I was talking about the genre then and wasn’t saying that the Alien franchise was unoriginal.

              Love the first few. Definitely agree with you on the anesthetic. Was just saying District 9 is a bit more original than most movies in the alien genre (not the Alien franchise).

              Man I feel like I’m just making things less clear! Haha

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                Nah, you’re loud and clear. I’m gonna check out District 9. I appreciate the suggestion.

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      Transfer bar is the culprit, only the AUG designed stupidity into the trigger - who tf wants a two stage semi>auto continuous pull?

      The long travel of the transfer bar inherently adds flex and slop, it’s tolerable in handguns because the movement isn’t very far and nobody expects 2MOA. It’s shows (and feels worse) on long guns that in conventional layouts are much better, even on a 5-7lb milspec gun.

      Keltec pulled a big brain move on the RBD and had the trigger up front run the sear engagement, and transfer the sear movement instead of the trigger’s movement, but it’s still not the same