You’ve got situations where Democrats help elect Muslims into positions of power, only to have those same Muslims turn around and enact things like LGBTQ+ flag bans. I’m not really sure that there’s much intersection between the Democrat’s platform and Muslim ideology outside of Democrats just trying to protect civil rights in general and at least trying to help immigrants/minorities. That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.
Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s apartheid America (if not further measures). It’s a shitty choice, but that’s what we’re down to in the US.
It’s happening the most in Michigan since a large arab diaspora community has settled in there from the Ford days
Prior to 9/11 arab muslims were a lock in republican voting bloc because christian nationalism hadn’t yet locked onto them as a target for persecution, and they often share goals for social policy.
That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks
Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s
Yep people like using race and religion as excuses to protect their hate towards queer people. We’ve known this for a while but people seem surprised when people other than white Christians do this.
That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.
That’s false and offensive stereotyping. Polling shows over 50% of American Muslims believe LGBT Americans deserve equal rights and treatment. Only 15% of Pentecostal Christians in the US agree. Meanwhile, Muslim politicians like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are very supportive of LGBT issues to the point where they lost the votes of some Muslim conservatives.
So? Judge millions of people by the actions of a politician?
There’s a Christian politician on west coast who proposed a bill giving death penalty for anyone who curses their parents, because the Old Testament said it. Should we judge all Christians by that guy? Absolutely not. Stop trying to stereotype.
Paddirn is specifically stating that American Muslims are all like that city council and that you can’t trust them on that basis. That’s idiotic, and still false based on public opinion polling. My point stands that he or she is trying to make a false narrative to stir up bigotry.
You’ve got situations where Democrats help elect Muslims into positions of power, only to have those same Muslims turn around and enact things like LGBTQ+ flag bans. I’m not really sure that there’s much intersection between the Democrat’s platform and Muslim ideology outside of Democrats just trying to protect civil rights in general and at least trying to help immigrants/minorities. That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.
Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s apartheid America (if not further measures). It’s a shitty choice, but that’s what we’re down to in the US.
Sorry, who are the Democratic Muslim elected officials enacting lgbtq+ flag bans?
Hamtramck, Michigan voted in a Muslim majority city council, who promptly banned Pride flags… for reasons:
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned
Here ya go
Yeah that article is a little more complicated than “Democrats get Muslim elected.“
Are any of the elected officials in question even Democrats? The article doesn’t say.
Biden won with like 85% of the vote in Hamtranck.
A little trick to reading most news articles: If the person or people its about are Democrats, the article will tell you.
It’s happening the most in Michigan since a large arab diaspora community has settled in there from the Ford days
Prior to 9/11 arab muslims were a lock in republican voting bloc because christian nationalism hadn’t yet locked onto them as a target for persecution, and they often share goals for social policy.
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As usual, Simpsons did it first
Yep people like using race and religion as excuses to protect their hate towards queer people. We’ve known this for a while but people seem surprised when people other than white Christians do this.
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That’s false and offensive stereotyping. Polling shows over 50% of American Muslims believe LGBT Americans deserve equal rights and treatment. Only 15% of Pentecostal Christians in the US agree. Meanwhile, Muslim politicians like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are very supportive of LGBT issues to the point where they lost the votes of some Muslim conservatives.
Stop trying to make stuff up.
But the specific thing that Paddirn is referencing DID happen?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned
So? Judge millions of people by the actions of a politician?
There’s a Christian politician on west coast who proposed a bill giving death penalty for anyone who curses their parents, because the Old Testament said it. Should we judge all Christians by that guy? Absolutely not. Stop trying to stereotype.
Sorry, I think you misunderstood my intent.
Per you, “That’s false and offensive stereotyping.” “Stop trying to make stuff up.”
You accused /u/paddirn of lying and other worse things. I was just trying to point out that they were referencing a specific event that has happened.
I didn’t say anything about judging all Muslims based on the actions of this one city council.
Paddirn is specifically stating that American Muslims are all like that city council and that you can’t trust them on that basis. That’s idiotic, and still false based on public opinion polling. My point stands that he or she is trying to make a false narrative to stir up bigotry.