• PepeLivesMatter
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    1 year ago

    Is it just me or does it smell like whataboutism in here?

    Women DID fight for the right to be able to do this. That’s not a conspiracy theory. They insisted on it.

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        1 year ago

        If you like comfortable echo chambers and rigorous banning of people you don’t agree with, why don’t you just stay on reddit?

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          That’s not a novel or interesting idea. Having low grade shit shoveled onto the platform has no impact on “echo chambers”.

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            Why don’t you make an actual argument instead of calling mine “low grade shit”?

            Just because you found what I said offensive doesn’t make it any less true.

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              Why don’t you make an actual argument instead of calling mine “low grade shit”?

              Because your statement really is low grade shit and you’re obviously not interested in an actual discussion or debate.

              Just because you found what I said offensive…

              Lol, you’re giving yourself too much credit. I doubt anyone is offended by your shitheel low effort trolling. Don’t confuse people calling out your stupidity with people being offended by your stupidity. You’re not that clever.

              doesn’t make it any less true.

              “women fought for the right to work” may be a factual statement on its own, but it’s entirely irrelevant to the context of the OP.

              This you?

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                “I called your argument shit because it IS shit.”

                Yeah, sorry, I don’t buy that. That’s like telling a battered woman you beat her because she deserved it.

                You’re just excusing your own verbal abuse on the grounds that it was necessary because what I said has upset you, but you’re unable to articulate why.

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                  11 months ago

                  Why do you think you upset anyone? Your initial statement was irrelevant and ignorant, but it didn’t upset me in the slightest. I CAN articulate my thoughts, but it’s pointless because you’re not having a discussion in good faith as demonstrated by your responses to others who DID articulate why you’re talking out your ass.

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                    11 months ago

                    Why do you think you upset anyone?

                    Because if I didn’t, there’d be no point in so many people spending the time and effort they did to make sure I regret posting that.

                    Yet no one has managed to prove me wrong, at best they’ve managed to convince me it was inappropriate because the woman in the OP wasn’t blaming the patriarchy for her situation.

                    But I’m sure you could have articulated that if you had wanted to, you just didn’t because it’s easier to insult people you disagree with than to have an actual argument with them.

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      Who gives a shit. This meme is for everyone. Men, women, fucking everyone. Your idiot shit take is meaningless, is what I’m trying to say, because there was no intent to make it about women. You made it about women, and nobody fucking asked.

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      Women fought for equal rights - for being allowed to do the same things men were, without restriction. Have careers, live their own lives, be equal before the law, not be relegated to the role of housewife/childbearer by default and without being given a choice.

      This meme is not about that. It’s not even about women. It just happens to have a woman in the photo. This meme is about big businesses routinely and with impunity exploiting their workers. Nobody ever fought for the right to be exploited. Of course, I don’t expect someone with a user name like PepeLivesMatter to understand that kind of nuance.

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        No, I do understand that nuance, and I appreciate your ability to explain it without resorting to name calling or insults.

        You and others are upset not because what I said wasn’t true (it was), but because it’s something you’d rather not talk or even think about. Okay. Point taken. She did indeed not blame men for her situation, at least not directly, I will admit that. Although I’m sure there’s already a feminist somewhere waiting to explain to me how shareholder value is a tool of the patriarchy that was designed for no other purpose than to oppress women.

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          You’re not digging yourself out of that hole out of your own making.

          And no, I’m not upset about anything you said. Truth has nothing to do with it. What you said was nonsensical, baseless, and not very intelligent. B most people’s standards, you’re trolling. I’ve long gotten over being upset by trolls.

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            If you aren’t upset, why spend all this time and effort trying to make me regret what I said instead of simply proving me wrong?

            If what I said was baseless and nonsensical, it would be easier and more effective to just disprove it rather than coming up with more and more insults to my intelligence instead.

            Other people have at least managed to point out that they found it inappropriate because the OP wasn’t blaming men for her situation, to which I have agreed. Yet here you are still heaping abuse over my head and trying to convince me you’re not upset.

            Sorry, but I’m not buying it.

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              If you aren’t upset, why spend all this time and effort trying to make me regret what I said instead of simply proving me wrong?

              I have explained where you’re wrong, to the point that you thanked me for it in your previous post. But you still insist on being right. I can’t help you with that, and am not going to either.

              Other people have at least managed to point out that they found it inappropriate

              And yet you’ve replied to them in the same vein as you have to me: whining that you’re right but being insulted.

              Yet here you are still heaping abuse over my head and trying to convince me you’re not upset.

              If you’d care to point out which part of my response was ‘heaping abuse over your head’, then maybe we’d get somewhere. Then again, ask me how much I care. On second thought, don’t. You’d just whine about the reply.

              Sorry, but I’m not buying it.

              Wasn’t selling anything. Go in peace, but go.

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                No, I thanked you for explaining it without name calling or insults. But then you felt the need to go right back to calling it baseless and unintelligent, thereby erasing any progress that was made.

                You already admitted that what I said was true, why go back to insulting me for saying it, when I made you an offer of truce by accepting that it was uncalled for?

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                  But then you felt the need to go right back to calling it baseless and unintelligent

                  That was a factual statement, not an insult. But hey, if the shoe fits…

                  You already admitted that what I said was true

                  That is provably false. I have done no such thing. Take your gaslighting elsewhere.

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                    11 months ago

                    That is provably false.

                    This you?

                    Women fought for equal rights - for being allowed to do the same things men were, without restriction. Have careers, live their own lives, be equal before the law, not be relegated to the role of housewife/childbearer by default and without being given a choice.

                    https://feddit.de/comment/5069083

                    That’s essentially what I said in my initial comment, nothing else. I didn’t say they ought to go back to the stove or anything stupid like that. Just that having to go to work to provide shareholder value is part and parcel of making that choice. Men have to do it too.