• halyk.the.red
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    68 months ago

    I attended American public school, just tell me how many 9/11’s that is so I can be appropriately outraged.

    • @PepeLivesMatter
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      118 months ago

      According to Wikipedia, the population of the entire Gaza Strip is about 2.3 million. 11k people is about 0.5% of the population. The 9/11 attacks killed about 3,000 people out of a population of approx. 300 million, i.e. 0.001%. If my math is correct, that would this death toll equal to about 500 9/11s.

      • @statist43@feddit.de
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        48 months ago

        But you need to think like this: Terrorist attack in 9/11: 3000 deaths Terrorist attack hamas: 1300 deaths

        Antiterrorist attack 9/11: ~180.000 deaths Antiterrorist attack Israel: 11.000 deaths

        So its still 5% of the deaths of 9/11 dont play down the human rights violations of the US because of 9/11…

          • @statist43@feddit.de
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            08 months ago

            Does it make it better that the US killed hundred of thousands in 20 years, than when killed in 2 years?

            Killed civillians are killed civillians, in a matter of 20 years or 2 this is irrelevant.

              • @statist43@feddit.de
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                18 months ago

                The US killed 20-30 times more in Irak and Afgahnistan. And I would say that 20 years of war is another horrifying factor.

                If you look at the rate than /month israel killed more.

                But even if you look /year the 9/11 war with 20,000-30,000 deaths ist still much more compared to 11,000 this year from israel…

                • This year. It started in October. Using your numbers, they have done half a years worth of murder in about 12th of the time, even with the USA drone striking weddings. Ones horrific, the other is a genocide.

                  This all started last month, not in January, we don’t know what the per year murder rate is but we can assume it would be around 132,000 if Israel continues the way they are currently.

                  • @statist43@feddit.de
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                    18 months ago

                    Yeah, you could assume, there you are right. But it still didnt happen, I hope they will stop any second, but thats just wishful thinking.

                    But just to see what the US did…

                    Israel could go on for almost 3 years like this and would have the same death toll then the US because of 9/11.

                    And thats sick. What the US did is sick, same as what Israel is doing now.

              • @statist43@feddit.de
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                18 months ago

                So you say 200,000-300,000 deaths in 20 years is better that 11,000 in one month?

                Wtf?

                I really dont fucking know how americans can justify bullshit like this.

                Its 20,000-30,000 dead people a year, I know its not like 11,000 in a month, but I really hope that israel is going to stop soon.

                • @Madison420@lemmy.world
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                  18 months ago

                  Do math. 200000÷20=10000 a year 833.3 repeating.

                  300000÷30= 15000 a year or 1250 a month

                  It is objective better.

                  Your high of you think 10000 a month is better than 10000 a year.

                  • @statist43@feddit.de
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                    08 months ago

                    I never said better. Its fucked up compared to really fucked up.

                    You keep justifying the USs shit to feel better? The same thing are the Israelis doing probably.

                    Nobody wants to be the Genocide maker.

                    Keep on living your life, thinking that the US killing civillians is somehow better than Israel killing civillians.

                    I did the math, few comments above.

                    When Israel goes on like this they will have 130,000 deaths per year, so they could go on for 3 years and be up with the same numbers as the US after 9/11.

                    Its just faster, and would be horrible. So I just hope the killing will end soon, and that you see then how fucked up the US strategy after 9/11 was. Israel uses the same argument as the US.

          • @randon31415@lemmy.world
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            38 months ago

            America retaliated to 9/11 by killing 200,000 Iraqis So Iraq had population 0.5% of its population killed (for something it had no responsibility for). So Israel needs to kill 0.5% of Gaza… which is around 4000 people. I guess 15 9/11 mean 15*4000=60,000

          • Karyoplasma
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            28 months ago

            It’s called onboarding and aims to garner public support by ripping open old scars. Just like the decapitated babies claim to dehumanize the enemy.

              • Karyoplasma
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                8 months ago

                The calculation was invalid to begin with. It’s like asking how many apples this orange was.

                I do understand you replied to a satirical question with a satirical analysis, but still. I’m not a fun person, so stop having fun.

      • halyk.the.red
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        38 months ago

        Like I said before, I have an American public school education, so that’s more math than I can do, so I appreciate it. I also have no emotional intelligence, and the news isn’t telling me to be mad about this, so all I can say is that this is the type of bad emotion that makes your eyes wet.

        • @PepeLivesMatter
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          08 months ago

          Don’t forget, if you disapprove of this, you are antisemitic and therefore a Nazi.

          • halyk.the.red
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            58 months ago

            Oh don’t worry, I condemn hammas and the great deceiver Carl Marks every morning after the pledge of allegiance, and before I dumpster dive for my breakfast behind the McDonald’s.