The homeowner told police the two men said they were police and claimed they were at the home to serve a warrant.
[The homeowner] became suspicious, because, you know, they have a ring camera too, and the suspects were saying they had a warrant, but it was just two people and they’re masked up and no police cars, no lights or anything like that," said Lt. Khan with HPD.
At some point, police said the men shot at the homeowner through the door, prompting the homeowner to return fire.
The homeowner was not hurt in the gunfire, but the two men were both hit and pronounced dead at the scene.
If you talking shotguns, I am an amateur, so use a hefty block of salt: I have a VR80. It is a semi-auto that uses magazines, which should make it better for military situations. My guess is that if civil war breaks out, both sides will initially be recruiting troops with whatever kit they happen to have - formal outfitting by Blue States would depend on where and when you are, so it would be better to bring a gun that is fit for combat in the first place. If you live in California or other restrictive states, you remove a pin and split the gun in half, allowing the mag release to operate. Apparently a small piece of the tool can be removed to permanently enable the mag button.
The VR80 will take a good number of rounds fired before it starts to loosen up. Jamming is an issue during the break-in, but that is fine if you are practicing. This weapon in particular prefers more powerful rounds, and is designed to be ambidextrous, along with being AR-15 style for addons. If you can, ditch the stock - it doesn’t telescope, and feels awkward to me.
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I cannot agree with your point about the break in period enough. Thats a pain point for all semi auto shotguns. You’re gonna need to expect to drop some cash on rounds (Ideally 1400+ FPS) to get it reliable. But on the bright side, youll have plenty of experience clearing stove pipes by the time its broke in so in the event of a jam youll clear it quick
It’s alright, it’s also kind of a waste, unless you’re like clearing a small area or slinging slugs at something heavily armored you could really get everything accomplished with a traditional tube shotgun, if that doesn’t work get a keltec, as far as military situations get a semi rifle or honestly even a bolt unless for some reason you’re trying to kill everything 30yds in front of you multiple times.
They have their place. I have one for home defense. A shotgun requires less precision than a handgun and my wife does not devote a ton of time at the range. We also have children so she’s understandly apprehensive around keeping a weapon loaded. So if you have to load the bitch when you need it, slapping that 10 round mag in is gonna be a lot easier for someone like her than trying to manually tubefeed the rounds.
Then have it loaded and not chambered, it’ll be much harder to load those mags then slide a shell in a regular shotgun, cause you know I also own one.
I think you missed part of the comment. It doesnt take much effort to rack a slug. The motion to do that is also ubiquitous and pretty much every child over the age of 4 knows how to rack a shotgun.
The goal was to make it safer for being around kids while not compromising ammo capacity or readying time.
Incoming drones are one of my worries. If anything calls for emptying a clip, it would be that situation.
I have a VR82 for 3 gun, tons of fun with it. Took about 300 rounds for mine to break in with no more stove pipes or FTF.