• Extras
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    1010 months ago

    Sorry to ask and I mean no harm but how serious is eating pork? I’m not religious at all

    • @Mothra@mander.xyz
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      1710 months ago

      I’m not religious either but, from the Muslims I’ve met, this seems to vary according to how religious they happen to be on an individual level. Same thing with make up, in theory it’s haram but a lot of women wear it along with their hijab.

      What this headline tells me is that things are getting a bit extremist in Indonesia. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’ve never been to Indonesia.

    • @Doorbook@lemmy.world
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      1410 months ago

      Its very prohibited. And very here refer to having many statements about it in both Quran, the holy book, and Hadith, the prophet Muhammad sayings.

      However, to my knowledge this case shouldn’t go to the court in the first place because all the islamic warning are personal. It is like breakout a fast, its personal and there are no law or instructions for a punishment for it.

      This shows how bad are the “islamic” groups in Indonesia are. Because in many cases they are doing things that completely unfounded by Islam. I cannot even call them fundamentalist.

      • @Bondrewd@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Most fundamentalist groups are fundamentalists for the fact that they only know the fundamentals for understanding religious texts.

        Actually useful concepts and conclusions to be made evade them. And that is not only for religion.

        Really. It is borderline a synonym with “dumb motherfucker”.

        • Kale
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          210 months ago

          Fundamentalism in Christianity means you interpret Scripture with two rules that are a lot like Occam’s Razor. The first is that text is interpreted literally unless it has obvious indications that it is not literal. The second is that the Tanakh (which Christians call the Old Testament) is followed unless the New Testament specifically comments on it.

          Fundamentalist Christians don’t believe in evolution because there’s nothing in Genesis that hints at allegory, and it’s not mentioned in the new testament. Eating pork and shellfish is allowed because that is specifically addressed as being Ok. Something like the Talmud in Judaism or Papal Bull / Canon in Catholicism, where Scripture can be interpreted in a more complex light, is not used at all. That’s a hallmark of fundamentalism in Christianity.

    • Annoyed_🦀 🏅
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      910 months ago

      It’s the worst sin you could ever commit if you’re a muslim, the same level as murder. They treat it as eating shit, but idk, as a non-religious chinese that’s the best shit we ever got.

      • @stephen01king@lemmy.zip
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        29 months ago

        Where the heck do you even get this idea from? I’ve never ever heard it be treated the same level as murder. Do you have any source to back this up?

      • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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        810 months ago

        I disagree with that. Cows are sacred to Hindus, pigs are abhorred by Muslims. Most (all?) Muslim countries have minority groups that eat pigs. That’s fine. However, a Muslim eating a cow in India could easily lead to a really bad time.

        There is no actual Islamic punishment for eating pigs, at least not one that I heard of. But who knows with the way people “laissez faire” do religion these days [see conservative Christian Americans calling some of Jesus’ teachings too woke].

        Some info, first response by Google: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/49688/why-is-pork-haram

        • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶
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          710 months ago

          conservative Christian Americans calling some of Jesus’ teachings too woke

          I’m not even surprised.

        • Poplar?
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          P.S even if they occasionally get things right, islamqa.info is a fundamentalist site that follows a very recent ideology that isnt what most muslims believe, and against the established schools of law in islam. Best not to use it.

        • Quokka
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          110 months ago

          Aren’t cows what you reincarnate into if you fuck up enough? Like they’re the lowest of all, so being kind to them is virtuous.

          • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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            110 months ago

            Interesting. I have never heard of that. I heard of a Hindu diety once being a cowherd in a specific incarnation however.

            • Quokka
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              210 months ago

              Honestly I don’t know if it’s true, hence the question. I saw an Indian person talking about it once, but it’s a hard topic to research in English.

              • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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                110 months ago

                I don’t know myself. However, it does seem unlikely that being a cockroach is somehow an improvement to an animal that is treated and protected well.