• AmbiguousProps
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    3 days ago

    They could have easily fixed it with hall effect sticks. That is a proven and inexpensive solution, but Nintendo prefers to sell more joycons and create waste, it’s that simple.

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      2 days ago

      It’s kind of wild, especially given how much they must have lost in that lawsuit requiring them to repair joy-cons free of charge

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      2 days ago

      It’s a known and proven shit solution. Have any of you ever actually used hall effect sensor joysticks? The centering is worse, the polling rate is far worse, they use a ton more power (already a limited resource in the individual joycons) and most of all they get absolutely screwed by electromagnetic interference… Interference like, say, magnets holding the joycons on.

      Ifixit is kind of full of shit here- the joysticks are the “same” only in that it’s using the same general design as every other non-hall effect sensor joystick that’s ever been used and most of those didn’t have problems with drift.

      It’s not the same part as the original joycons, so the issue could be fixed- from what the switch welcome tour was saying, it seems pretty likely in fact.

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        16 hours ago

        You’re getting downvoted for telling a truth no one wants to hear. But magnetic interference is why Valve abandoned Hall effect for steam deck after a bunch of field tests. You can mod other handheld PCs like ROG Ally and people who do report the same thing. Hall effect is great for standalone controllers but totally incompatible with handhelds.

        But implying that Nintendo cheaped out again regarding its most infamous complaint about the last console is a much better way to get clicks on your site. There’s a million other things worth raking Nintendo over the coals for, but skipping on hall effect ain’t it.

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        2 days ago

        I use hall effect on the daily and have had none of the issues you’re discussing. I suppose time will tell, but I much prefer hall effect.

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          2 days ago

          Probably depends entirely on what games you play, and how sensitive you are, but hall effects feel like trash and destroy the joycon battery life. I tried playing Celeste with hall effects and wooooow was it bad. Basically unplayable past the early chapters.

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            1 day ago

            It sounds like you used crappy hall effect sticks or have defective ones, to be honest.

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            1 day ago

            As a fellow celete player, I’m sorry your experience was like that, but I’m also currently using hall effect sticks on both my 8bitdo ultimate and my guillikit kong 2, it feels absolutely mint on both with no tinkering. I’m gonna have to ask you to name and shame the hall effect sticks you’re using, please. Thanks!

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              24 hours ago

              Buddy says they were gulikit, yes (wasn’t my joycons). Tried them out on chapter 2 golden and some c sides. He liked them (didn’t play anything like Celeste) but had noticed the reduced battery, I could feel the reduced polling rates sometimes causing latency and throwing off timings.

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                  54 minutes ago

                  My understanding is that if they’ve lasted at least a month and haven’t died on you, you probably got a “good” batch and what you have now will be what it stays as for the most part, but a fair number of gulikits just sort of crap out at the 1-2 mo mark.

                  So heads up on that.

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      2 days ago

      It’s not.

      Hall effect sticks probably would have increased the price, and then people would complain about how greedy Nintendo is even more than they do now.

      It’s always the same story. Whatever they do, it’s not good enough or too expensive or whatever. In the end, the thing will be sold out nonetheless.