• lechatron
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    13 hours ago

    Be a step in the right direction.

    Fun fact: they stopped working on a male birth control pill because of the side effects it was causing. Most of those side effects are experienced by women taking the female birth control pill.

    Fun fact 2: the chainsaw was invented to open the pubic Symphysis joint during difficult child birth.

    Bonus banger to enjoy how dismissive healthcare is for women.

    (as one of my friends constantly reminds me, my facts are not very fun)

    • RedPostItNote@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      IUDs are a pretty terrible experience for many women. My uterus wouldn’t stop trying to reject mine for two years. These don’t work at all for a lot of women.

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      8 hours ago

      You want to get angry with a group of people?

      Do a group read of Invisible Women, it’ll fuck you up how badly science and engineering fucks up rather than include women because it’s hard 😬

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      9 hours ago

      As much as this sucks, it’s not just birth control. Medication that was legalized when laws and regulations were more lax will stay legal even if wouldn’t be permitted nowadays. Famously, aspirin would almost certainly not be legalized today because the necessary dose is too close to the dangerous dose. Of course it’s sexist as shit that they’re only starting to researching male birth control in the current day.

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      7 hours ago

      If side effects are not death, surely they are worth it for many, so cancellation seems weird

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        It’s the result of weird ethical standards, which make the side effects justifiable for women since women experience all sorts of effects from periods that can in some cases get better with hormonal birth control. The fact that someone (many people I’m sure) might choose to deal with these side effects in exchange for their partner not having to, or just for additional safety, doesn’t factor in there.

        I honestly think it’s rooted in the same beliefs that also make it hard to get any permanent body alterations done if not deemed “medically necessary”. Things like a vasectomy or HRT, both of which reportedly have tons of hoops to jump through to get them.

        A lack of trust in people to be able to decide what to do with their own bodies.

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      Fun fact: they stopped working on a male birth control pill because of the side effects it was causing. Most of those side effects are experienced by women taking the female birth control pill.

      It’s a bit unethical to continue a study when it causes people to try and committ suicide.

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        What about when it finds something you’ve been giving women for years has been causing people to try and sometimes succeed in committing suicide?

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6193788/

        And on a lesser scale it was a common experience in women’s dorms for a woman who got a boyfriend would go on bc, which would make her into such a mess (Mood swings, anxiety, depression and don’t forget weight gain and acne!) that the relationship would fall apart.

        They always say, “it’s better than childbirth,” and it is, but does that have to be the bar? We don’t judge anything for men with “well, it’s better than childbirth.” We try to find ways to make it as painless as possible.

        Which is why this is so overdue and appreciated.

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          I cannot help but wonder…why not just use condoms. Like we solved the problem ages ago - put a wall between the shot and it’s target. Is it uncomfortable? Yeah, somewhat.

          Which still sounds hella better than anxiety, depression, mood swings etc.

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            7 hours ago

            Condoms break. The best prevention is layered birth control, two different forms like condom plus another method which will increase effectiveness to near 100%.

            Also you can’t be seriously saying that all men happily use a condom. Been on the receiving end of much weedling and stealth removal.

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              The best prevention is layered birth control, two different forms like condom plus another method which will increase effectiveness to near 100%.

              It’s important to note, for those who need to know it, that “layering birth control” should only be done with different types (ie a condom and a spermicide, or a condom and the BC pill, etc.) It does not mean using more than one condom at the same time! Two or more condoms create friction against each other, which can cause them to tear - defeating the purpose.

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              Men like these should be taken out back and shot, no different than rape imo. I just said that condoms work and are oretty much 100% effective if used correctly. But yeah, I cede to the fact that it’s not 100% controllable from women pov.

          • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
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            7 hours ago

            Birth control can very much help hormonal imbalances that can cause painful skin conditions like cystic acne, PMS, painful periods, and manage more serious conditions like endometriosis and PCOS, in which rupturing polyps can cause scar tissue from from your uterus to migrate to your other organs and destroy them.

            I use it for all of them.

            Birth control is not just about sex & pregnancy prevention.