Marjorie Taylor Greene, a prominent Republican congresswoman and a staunch ally of Trump, suggested a return to “measles parties” for children. She criticized contemporary attitudes towards vaccination, stating, “Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids.”

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    This is why Republicans are stupid, a vaccine is a controlled and safe measles exposure with some risk that is 1 in a 100. You are doing the same thing with measles parties but more reckless dangerous levels of infection and putting your kid at risk of death like 1/15 if you send them to the measles parties.

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      1 in 100 is ridiculously overstating the serious risks, borderlining on misinformation. You are not doing the same thing with measles parties at all

      Here are the risks of the mmr vaccine

      Death: literally 1 in a million. These are typically due to anaphylaxis. In much rarer cases underlying immune disorders are triggered, underlying neurological conditions such as encephalitis are triggered, or very severe thrombocytopenia occurs. The majority of cases of thrombocytopenia induced by the vaccine (which is still astoundingly rare) are not nearly this severe and are correctable

      Anaphylaxis: literally 1 in a million

      Febrile seizures: between 1 in 3000 and 1 in 4000

      Thrombocytopenia, a low platelet count: 1 in 40,000. Again, most cases are not fatal

      Mild swelling of the glands similar to mumps: 1 in 1000

      Mild side effects like rash or fever though? About 5%

      Now to contrast:

      If you catch measles you have about a 1 in 1000 chance of dying. This is in America, the risk is higher in less developed countries and countries where vaccinations rates are lower (and thus pockets of America where vaccination rates are low may see higher death rates). This is because of the potential risk of developing pneumonia and encephalitis

      People who are anti vaccination do not understand medicine at all and do understand the most basic statistics. The fact of the matter is vaccines can and do cause harm. There is no getting around that fact. But the chance of you encountering the harm from vaccines is astronomically lower than the risk of of encountering harm from the diseases they are protecting you from.

      To put it quite simply: if you vaccinate your child with the mmr vaccine they have a 1 in a million chance of dying. If you do not and they catch measles they have a 1 in a thousand chance of dying. If you purposely infect them with measles you should be charged with child abuse.

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        One other devastating reason to vaccinate, particularly against measles: measles can give your immune system amnesia. All that precious “natural immunity” that these ghouls profess? You can just fucking LOSE it and have to relearn how to fight off previous infections. It’s a goddamned factory reset to day one, but without mommy’s antibodies you got in utero, nor from breast milk. Unless you’re Robin Arryn of the Vale from Game of Thrones.

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          1 in 1000 given a working hospital system. Without the vaccine, hospitals would be completely inundated with patients.

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            To be clear I don’t think you were trying to be misleading or anything and I apologize if I came off as rude. By nature of my work I talk to anti vaccine people a lot and it can be trying

            I mean to ultimately stress the point that somehow we have lost the plot. When vaccines came out people truly understood that the vaccine was a tremendous advantage over the alternative. Primarily because at the time they had seen firsthand the chilling effects of disease ravaging their communities

            It unfortunately appears we will have a reminder of that soon because stupid selfish morons refuse to read a book and as result their “right to liberty” will result in countless deaths. Sorry to grandma, sorry to babies, maga dork doesn’t trust doctors

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        Anaphylaxis is typically treatable especially at the Dr most people live even in that incredibly rare event.

        There have been no deaths shown to be related to the MMR vaccine in healthy people.

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      There have been no deaths shown to be related to the MMR vaccine in healthy people. Tons of kids will die from measels

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      I should start selling pillows. Not comfortable pillows. Just a brand of pillows to scream into when life hands you no other options for releasing your frustration.