This is not a question about if you think it is possible, or not.

This is a question about your own will and desires. If there was a vote and you had a ballot in your hand, what will you vote? Do you want Artificial Intelligence to exist, do you not, maybe do you not care?

Here I define Artificial Intelligence as something created by humans that is capable of rational thinking, that is creative, that it’s self aware and have consciousness. All that with the processing power of computers behind it.

As for the important question that would arise of “Who is creating this AI?”, I’m not that focused on the first AI created, as it’s supposed that with time multiple AI will be created by multiple entities. The question would be if you want this process to start or not.

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    Any Ai couldn’t answer that any more then science could. You already have your answer, if you believe in science.

    I think we have souls though. :)

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      Where’s the soul located? What’s it made of? What’s its biological purpose, as in which evolutionary pressure caused it to evolve? At what stage did it develop? Bacteria stage, multi-celular? Mammals? Primates? Or only humans? If so, why not chimpanzees who are very similar to us?

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        If you read spiritual books, they say we are eternal souls having a human experience. Meaning we pick where to reincarnate and what bodies to occupy for having the experience our souls needs to grow.

        Of course it’s just beliefs throughout history and science have no evidence, except some indications of reincarnation through stories people have told, things they can’t know but speak of as children for example. Some people have drawn detailed maps of places they have never been, way before Google maps existed.

        I think it’s interesting. :)

        You ask questions about evolution of the soul as if it’s a physical part of us. I don’t think that’s how it works. If it exists, it’s some form of energy/form we can’t detect with our instruments.

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          Ah, so it’s based on nothing. It’s still beyond me why people believe in something that’s based on nothing. Except for really wanting something to be true. If it can’t be detected, it doesn’t exist.

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            I don’t want to spend time arguing with you, but infrared and ultraviolet existed forever, before humans knew about it. It’s not like our instruments can detect all there is in the universe, physical or energetic.

            But think what you like, that’s all we can do. :)

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      🤷 I still say yes and I still think it would be profound and perspective changing to create something “like us” with silicon

      I also don’t think AI and science are mutually exclusive. I don’t mean asking the AI questions about consciousness and getting answers directly from it like an LLM chatbot, but the fact that we can make it and scientific study + observation of the AGI phenomenon might provide some answers

      And even if we develop AGI that is just like us, maybe you’re right and maybe it proves absolutely nothing about souls, but it at least narrows the requirements and eliminates some common reasoning, which should be in everyone’s interests, because it could further define and help us understand the nature of the hypothetical soul

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        Yup I agree. I also think there is human cloning going on too (it’s illegal but obviously secret organizations are doing it).

        Do those clones have souls? It’s even more interesting to me since it’s an attempted copy of a real person.

        We won’t find out until cloning is legal, and it won’t be legal until it’s 100% safe. All the failed clones are most likely being terminated in secret.