• @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    Most of what youā€™re claiming Biden accomplished arenā€™t real accomplishments thoughā€¦ not yet at any rate. He WANTS to do more, itā€™s that what he has done is either ineffective, blocked by the courts, or so far in the future nobody knows or cares.

    For exampleā€¦

    EV investment. Biden signed a law pushing $7.5 billion dollars into fast charging infrastructure. Thatā€™s fantastic! And 100% mandatory for an EV future.

    In the 2 years since signing it, only 8 have been built. Thatā€™s NOT a success.

    https://reason.com/2024/05/30/7-5-billion-in-government-cash-only-built-8-e-v-chargers-in-2-5-years/

    Now you can go ā€œWell, thatā€™s not Bidenā€™s fault, he gave everyone the funding they needed to make it happenā€¦ā€

    No, but what IS Bidenā€™s fault is claiming it as a giant achievement when itā€™s absolutely not.

    When Republicans do it, we actively mock them, not claim we should put their face on Mt. Rushmore:

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      Iā€™m sorry but yā€™all have no idea how many levels there are to infrastructure. Biden does funding and basic rules. Then the states and perhaps cities have to do the planning. Which is a big deal - if theyā€™re trying to fill in gaps they need to study this. Then after planning is public open houses and public input, which may change planning (loop created). Thatā€™s where the nimbys get to cry and say no, which the government has to listen to and accommodate to various degree. Lots of back and forth between public, state planning, and federal ok. Then it goes to engineering (different than planning). Then a competitive bid - this is government, everything needs a long competitive bid for anti corruption. Then bid review. Then bid award. Then building permits. Then finally construction contractor mobilization. All those have wait times too because none of these companies or departments (planning, engineering, construction) are sitting twiddling their thumbs. New work generally goes to the back of the queue or has to be fit in somewhere.

      Biden did his part, and yes after that itā€™s not on him. Personally I donā€™t blame or mock either party when things take time. He gets credit for his part. He was successful at his part.

      • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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        24 days ago

        You donā€™t get to brag about it until itā€™s done and itā€™s, what? 1% done?

        Same thing with student debt relief.

        ā€œWeā€™re going to forgive student debt! Yay!ā€
        * If you borrowed $12,000 or less.
        ** And you havenā€™t missed any payments in 10 years.

        If you borrowed $12K or less and have been making payments for 10 years, you donā€™t have any significant debt to forgive.

        • BarqsHasBite
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          Dude I already explained the mechanism of infrastructure. I explained in great detail why it takes a long time and why you canā€™t wait, which you donā€™t even bother to respond to. You just make the same claim and youā€™re off to the next one. For that I could talk about the courts and then how they had to rewrite the specifics (those werenā€™t the conditions I heard, the ones I heard were very decent), but then you wonā€™t respond to the detail, youā€™ll make the same claim, and youā€™ll be off to next one again. Whatā€™s the point?

          So yes he gets credit for his part. Demanding we wait for the whole thing to play out when the wheels are in motion and itā€™s happening is frankly ridiculous. Ciao.

          • @jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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            1ā€¢23 days ago

            I get it, it took a year of permitting and inspections to get solar panels on my house, but I wasnā€™t bragging that it was done and how much solar I was generating when the project wasnā€™t completed yet.

            Thatā€™s what Biden is doing. And if Harris loses in November, Trump will kill it all and Biden will have done nothing.