• DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    I wasn’t sure if there was a lower form of life than western journalists, but I think reaction video debatebros might actually be even worse.

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      If you read what he said on Sabra and Shatila, you would realize his father is more than tangentially related to why he’s iffy, if not shit on supporting Falastin…

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    I hate myself and enjoy pain so I skimmed through this video. This guy keeps quoting a guy named Benny Morris occasionally, quoting from the book Righteous Victims: A History of the Zionist-Arab Conflict, 1881-2001. Benny Morris is an self-admitted Zionist who was in the IDF for 33 years and was present at the Siege of Beirut in an artillery unit. I only know the name because Norman Finkelstein absolutely hates Benny Morris and considers him a fraud.

    This breadtube guy also at one point brings up the stupid rent agreements that Israel made with Jordan, as if that wasn’t something done under duress and under bad terms. “This piece of paper that says i’m your landlord now says you have to pay me rent and if you don’t i’m seizing your house because you’re Palestinian” isn’t a justifiable reason to evict people and toss them in jail and I don’t know why liberals keep bringing this up.

    The second half of this video is literally 45 minutes of “but what about Russia mr second thought.” Making the bizarre claim that if Israel is doing ethnic cleansing, then Russia is also doing it. That would be true if we were talking about I don’t know, Chechens in 1996, but Ukraine in 2024?

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      The second half of this video is literally 45 minutes of “but what about Russia mr second thought.” Making the bizarre claim that if Israel is doing ethnic cleansing, then Russia is also doing it. That would be true if we were talking about I don’t know, Chechans in 1996, but Ukraine in 2024?

      What’s the difference between Chechnya and Ukraine tho?

      I know the speed of which Israel is killing is probably more than that of Russia, when it comes to civilians

      25,000 dead in 3 months

      compared to

      10,000 dead in 2 years…

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        In case of Ukraine war Russia is not deliberately targeting civilians, the military to civilian death ratio being like 40 or 50 to 1 speaks by itself, in this aspect it’s actually one of the most restrained big military operations in entire modern era.

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        I don’t think it’s the case that Russia is doing a deliberate cultural or ethnic genocide against Ukrainian people themselves. This is a conflict over territory, NATO encirclement, and self-determination for people in the Donbas.

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        A history of right wing Israeli statements along the lines of, “From the river to the sea, all of Palestine belongs to us” and then marching militias supported by armies to forcibly depopulate areas of their Palestinian residents.

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    This is actually the video that inspired the colossal Bad Empanada/Second Thought/Yugopnik/Hakim crossover fundraiser that raised 65k for aid for Palestine. (Noah Samsen was going to take part but backed out due to pushback from v**** fans. Very disappointing showing on his part)

    EDIT: The part of the VOD that addresses the video finally got uploaded.

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        The stream itself came from BE wanting to sue someone for defamation (then realizing that money is better spent on Palestine) but the inclusion of the crossover came from Dronerbox’ callout video, so ST/Yugo/Hakim got involved to help out the fundraiser bringing their fanbase with them.