Here’s how Ukraine was being reported by the West before the war.
Today, increasing reports of far-right violence, ultranationalism, and erosion of basic freedoms are giving the lie to the West’s initial euphoria. There are neo-Nazi pogroms against the Roma, rampant attacks on feminists and LGBT groups, book bans, and state-sponsored glorification of Nazi collaborators.
These stories of Ukraine’s dark nationalism aren’t coming out of Moscow; they’re being filed by Western media, including US-funded Radio Free Europe (RFE); Jewish organizations such as the World Jewish Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center; and watchdogs like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House, which issued a joint report warning that Kiev is losing the monopoly on the use of force in the country as far-right gangs operate with impunity.
Five years after Maidan, the beacon of democracy is looking more like a torchlight march. A neo-Nazi battalion in the heart of Europe
If you whitewash NAZI POGROMS just because you want to beat Russia, fuck you. Siding with far-right fascists to defeat far-right fascists doesn’t make you the good guy. There is no lesser of two evils here.
If you dismiss any criticism of Ukraine as Russian propaganda, you might want to ask why the rest of the world, including the West, was concerned about Nazism in the area and then suddenly changed their tune only after the war started.
We should be getting both sides into peace negotiations, not prolonging the bloodshed and providing Nazis with illegal cluster bombs
The US funding and arming far right militias as a means of attacking a geopolitical rival has historically always been a good idea and resulted in very few consequences
I hope liberals are happy with themselves when the jet they’re flying to the bahamas on gets downed by an azov stinger missile system.
Yep I’m happy when Russian scumbag go take a dirt nap 😴
mmmm dats good Nazi
Funny how all the z apologists don’t actually live in Russia🤣 getting call a Nazi by a literal nazi supporters🤣
do you know what “literal” means? maybe the “literal nazis” are the people literally sporting nazi symbols, literally conducting pogroms and segregation on Roma people, and literally using cluster munitions against civilians in the Donbas
btw i used all western sources
Yep cause Russia sure ain’t bombing civilians Ukraine dropping them right on these civilian trenches
Hey please allow yourself a Peak on the Real story , if you have the Curage …
you can repeat fascist lies as well , its your choice ,we try to help you …
notice how my argument is well sourced while yours has zero evidence presented. ur comeback doesnt even make sense— use some damn punctuation! and “civilian trenches”? lol! please try to be coherent
Oh hey I think you dropped this
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/19/zrjy-j19.html
UN report confirms Ukrainians’ use of civilians as “human shields”
In March, the Ukrainian government blamed Russian forces for the deaths of more than 50 elderly and disabled residents of a care home in the village of Stara Krasnyanka in the eastern province of Lugansk. According to Ukrainian officials, a fire broke out in the facility following a supposedly unprovoked attack on the innocents by Russian forces.
In reality—in a case the report found to be “emblematic” of the war—on March 7, days before the attack, Ukrainian forces had taken up positions within the care home “as it had strategic value due to its proximity to an important road.” Previous requests by the facility to local Ukrainian authorities to evacuate residents were denied due to the fact that Kiev had mined the surrounding area and blocked roads, thereby preventing anyone from fleeing.
Do you see what’s happening? These fucking nazi fucks who have absolutely zero respect for human life are manipulating you with lies about atrocities by deliberately putting their own citizens in the crossfire of a war. This is the kind of shit nazis do. And your own institutions are the ones calling them out for it, not just the other side. And you just don’t hear it.
Why do people keep doing this? Why this deflection against admitting that there are many Nazis in the UA military establishment? Is it that important for you that UA be as pure and white as driven snow?
are you deliberately or only accidentally unable to distinguish between being a “Z apologist” and simply recognizing that the United Snakes created the current geopolitical situation by pitting former Soviet countries against each other and pouring money into the most reactionary ghouls in both Russia and Ukraine?
don’t actually live in Russia?
I’m not Russian, but you know people besides Americans use the internet right?
Russia pit Slavic country’s against each other funny how eastern Europe hates Russia just because they have done nothing but bring suffering and death to that region of the world for centuries funny how they want to align with the west and have money and health care and be able to live and not have Russian missiles fall on there head but america bad
props to your dentist for dealing with the consequences of the raw sewage propaganda you happily choose to slurp down.
america bad
See? You can still be right even as you spew nonsense and false equivalencies.
HaTiNg NaZIs MaKeS U tHe ReAl NaZi
I don’t support Russian or Ukraine Nazis. Eat my ass please!
Yes the country with a Jewish president is totally nazi sure nice logic there 🙄 👍 😉 👏
And I take it there is zero racism in America after Obama became president?
“How can you say America is racist, they had a black president!”
You wouldn’t know a Nazis if they were goose stepping right in front of you. Nazis obviously do not care for Jewish people but their real enemy is and has always been the left. Otto Skorzeni litterally worked on behalf of the Israeli government. Walther Rauff, the inventor of “gas vans” also worked for Israel. About a dozen Nazis war criminals worked for Israel, and both the Nazis and the Israeli government knew this. Contemporary Nazis fucking love Israel because they’ve created a white ethnostate and admire their ability to have done so.
So to answer your question can Ukraine have a Nazi problem with a Jewish head of state? Absolutely, Nazis have no problem working with Jewish people when it serves their interests and it has served their interest to work with Zelensky because people such as yourself who are incapable of seeing through this thin veil guzzle the propaganda willingly and supported giving them a fuck ton of weapons to carry out pogroms on Roma and Russians.
The “explicitly leftist” midwest.social sure aren’t sending their best
you need to watch this emoji gif in it’s entirety as it explains the war.
Its beyond my mind who you call yourself a communist while cheering on a racist facist colonizer at least china plays lip service to being communist Russia doesn’t even pretend but you people will still larp for them
colonization is when russians aren’t genocided and get to live in russia
wanna decolonize eastern ukraine and crimea? give them to kazakhstan
racist
Show me links to prove this. I have read multiple interviews from Putin all the way down to soldiers on the front line who all say that this whole war is stupid because they see Ukrainians as their brothers. There are multiple ethnicities in Russia and somehow they manage to get along quite well.
facist
That’s not how you spell the word “fascist.” “Fascism” is a is a word with a meaning. It does not apply to Russia as it is now. Maybe don’t use words that you don’t understand and cant spell.
someone shits on the USA and you pretend it was a statement of uncritical support for Russia
I’ve collected a list of YouTube videos from western news sources on Ukraine’s neo-nazi problem, I’m gonna post it whenever the topic comes up, others feel free to do the same
BBC Newsnight - Neo-Nazi threat in new Ukraine (2014)
VICE News - Under Fire with the Azov Battalion (2014)
The Guardian - Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp (2017)
NBC News - Ukraine’s Hyper-Nationalist Military Summer Camp for Kids (2017)
DW Documentary - Women and the Azov battalion in Kyiv, Ukraine (2017)
BBC Newsnight - Ukraine: On patrol with the far-right National Militia (2018)
Associated Press - Nationalist camp in Ukraine trains kids to kill (2018)
TIME - Inside A White Supremacist Militia in Ukraine (2021)
VICE - Why the Far Right Joined the 2013-14 Ukraine Crisis (2021)
Working archive links for all of those videos just in case any of them goes down:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140228232131/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY
https://web.archive.org/web/20140907084820/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKnFSzMefIY
https://web.archive.org/web/20170905090805/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw
https://web.archive.org/web/20170714144930/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpV16BQfbrQ
https://web.archive.org/web/20190407192642/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meWM4lChqy4
https://web.archive.org/web/20180404143154/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE6b4ao8gAQ
https://web.archive.org/web/20201101184729/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsHBdyqKpfo
https://web.archive.org/web/20210129113645/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy910FG46C4
https://web.archive.org/web/20210516085544/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC1oCpnDURc
Good work
The only good thing an Azovite ever did was starve to death in the basement of a steel factory
that’s NOT true and it’s VERY fucked up to say!
they’ve also been turned into chunky soup by artillery fire
Mfw most of the bozos in the article are dead
me every time i learn about another dead nazi
Neat take, I guess.
I look forward to the dirt-cheap Russian labor in the decades to come.
Already got plenty of Poles and Ukies for that
into the pit with ye
Most anti-imperialist nato defender:
That counteroffensive will be reaching Moscow any day now!
You are an abhorrent, racist, bloodthirsty piece of shit that can’t even be called a human being. A hollow cuck to the elite motivated only by selfish greed. The word libertarian also applies.
Either way, modern slave owners deserve death.
Correction: All slave owners deserve death.
Your comment is pretty honest with what the West’s endgame is here. Obviously that account is an alt and probably abandoned but viewers can learn from this toxic admission of truth:
-splinter and destroy Russia to restore the practice of shock doctrine to harvest the country of its labor and resources.
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destroy China’s BRI (Belt & Road Initiative) to unify Asia and Europe through rail and infrastructure
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Focus on balkanizing China and harvesting their resources and labor once again.
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Move on to Africa afterward, and renew an age of 18th-20th century American-European imperialism.
Bingo
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obviously you haven’t seen the RAND Corporation report on Ukrainian Privatization
I often see criticism of Ukraine lumped in with Russian justifications for invasion, in which case, the war is also warping your views.
providing Nazis with illegal cluster bombs
The US got heat from other supporters of Ukraine for that even. Russia is also using them. Further cause to support peace negotiations.
Especially because the actual reason Russia invaded wasn’t over any concern about ethnic Russians in Ukraine (that’s literally one of the oldest bullshit excuses for war) was to prevent NATO from being on it’s borders, and now Finland and Sweden have joined, so Russia’s already lost the geopolitical battle. All they’re fighting for now is dirt.
The Baltics have been in NATO since 2004, so Russia already had NATO on its border. Plus Poland on Belarus’s border. It’s not about having NATO on their border in general, it’s about having NATO in Ukraine specifically. Finland and Sweden joining means nothing.
But Ukrainian bombing of the Donbass absolutely was a factor as well. For 8 years Russia tried the diplomatic route to get them to stop, but despite signing agreements, Ukraine just ignored them and kept bombing anyway.
The Baltics have been in NATO since 2004
The baltic route to invading Russia is a lot more difficult than the Ukrainian route. Ukraine was always the “red line” for them because of the topography, and the closeness to moscow. Also they were pissed when the baltics joined. The brits declassified that informal promises were made to Gorbachev (ugh…) to not expand NATO eastward in March 1991 if he dissolved the USSR. Of course these informal promises weren’t in writing and were never kept. the USA denied they were ever made, but luckily the brits declassified
Really no one should be shocked that an informal promise wasn’t honored. If a legally binding treaty can still be ignored by a sovereign power, informal promises are always worthless and no one should be pointing to them and going “but they promised!”
Yes. Gorbachev was a clown who got clowned upon. Still, I think it’s worth mentioning, because it reveals that the West was always willing to be deceptive about NATO expansion, and what the role of NATO actually is (i.e. it is not a “defensive” alliance but a reactionary alliance of imperial core countries to protect the superprofits afforded by imperialism and neocolonialism)
I mean, it is literally a defensive alliance if only because if one country is attacked, the others are legally obliged to treat it as an attack on them. It is then also an alliance of Imperial core countries (it was after all, founded in response to the Warsaw Pact).
It is indeed worth mentioning, but I don’t think it’s worth framing it as some sort of public promise that was walked back.
It is then also an alliance of Imperial core countries (it was after all, founded in response to the Warsaw Pact).
It was NOT founded in response to the Warsaw pact. NATO was formed in 1949. The Warsaw Pact was founded in 1955. The Warsaw pact was founded in response to NATO. NATO was building up West Germany economically less than 10 years after the fucking holocaust. The Soviet Union tried to join NATO in 1954 and was told “no, you aren’t democratic enough.” But they had no problem letting West Germany in while integrating “former” nazis like Adolf Heusinger into their command structure.
I mean, it is literally a defensive alliance if only because if one country is attacked, the others are legally obliged to treat it as an attack on them
less than a third of NATO countries were admitted to NATO through some kind of democratic referendum. It was almost always the unilateral decision of the given country’s bourgeois class, rather than something the people themselves were consulted on. In the cases where democratic referendums were held, it was often in countries that had just been balkanized (former Yugoslav countries, for example), or countries that were just at the outskirts of NATO and were therefore pressured geopolitically into choosing whose “sphere of influence” they were under: Russian federation, or USA. When a nation is compelled under duress to pick sides like that, and a class dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is the one that usually ends up making the decisions, I doubt the alliance can reasonably be called “defensive.” Its borders keep expanding to encircle and balkanize nations whose main “crime” was being socialist Once Upon A Time. NATO expansion is marching us towards WW3. It is an expansionist and aggressive alliance that merely uses Article 5 to appear defensive and Democratic, while trying its hardest to constantly provoke wars and lay claim to natural resources.
Is the following something a “defensive” alliance does?