As the Trump administration weaponizes accusations of antisemitism to justify repression, the Jewish left is rising up.
It was the weirdest thing being raised Jewish in the 1980s
Constantly reminded of the holocaust and to be on alert for fascists.
But then Israel and Zionism?
None of it added up.
“Next year in Jerusalem” my grandparents said this their whole lives.
“Why don’t we just go there?” I would ask
Having Jerusalem wasn’t enough.
They wanted to exterminate Palestinians.
How is that different than the holocaust?
It’s not. Zionism is antisemitism
Another Lemmy comment I read the other day explained it that “never again” meant “never again against us.”
“Why don’t we just go there?”
“Shutupshutupshutupshutup”
lol the amount of times that was the response to my questions
What am I not understanding here? Did they not want you to see the treatment of the Palestinians or something
Religions do not want the children they’re grooming to think critically.
That is not typically how Judaism works though. At least for the Jews around me, Judaism is a culture centered around asking critical questions. God doesn’t even enter the equation for a great many Jews, that’s not the point. The point is using the tradition, the rituals and the community to remember and better understand the past and to use that understanding to prevent the same kind of tragedy in the future.
Anyway, that’s the kind of thing we talked about at my sedar.
That’s a load of hooey dude. I was raised Jewish.
God is the first thing. And the last thing in that tradition
Come on dude. Don’t tell a lie like that.
It’s so demonstrably false.
I mean, different people have different traditions for sure, and I have no intention of invalidating your beliefs and upbringing in any way. And there are of course also different denominations of Judaism, Orthodox and Conservative Jews for example are much more focused on God for certain. But in the US, Reform Jews are the most common and for most Reform Jews tradition and community tend to be the most important tenents, faith in God coming in somewhere behind those.
It’s so demonstrably false.
That strikes me as extraordinarily difficult to demonstrate…
You’re both wrong! Judaism is a culture centered around matzo ball soup.
Great that the Jewish communities are speaking up against Trump using them as a reason to deport people… Great.
But where were all the jewish communities’ demonstrations about the actions of Israels government in their name?
I know a lot of Jewish people do not support them. But by not speaking up, they are allowing it to keep happening.
The Jewish community has been speaking up. The problem is that the global Jewish community doesn’t actually control the Israeli government, so there’s only so much that speaking up can do. Also, the population of Israel tend to see things quite differently from American Jews. It’s very unfortunate that Jews in Israel do seem to have forgotten the Holocaust…
They have been. Jewish voice for peace has been protesting Israel since before most people have been born, and most Orthodox Jews have always protested zionism, since it’s an anti Jewish religion.
Could more protest? Sure, but that’s true of any group. Why did Americans protest American border policy for under trump but not Obama or biden.
Because Americans don’t care about people, they just play politics like its a team sport.
Whenever Democrats are in power, the left gets lazy. Even though that is when they could actually press their issues through.
And the republicans are racists, they would never protest such a thing lol.
Protests against the ongoing genocide of Palestinians were happening under Biden and they were crushed and with very few exceptions given no support by the Democrats. They paved the way for the Trump admins actions against Khalil and others. Unquestioning support for Israel even against our own citizens is a bipartisan position in the United States.
Its not really useful to think of the Democrats as “the left.” The left has no institutional power in the United States and is suppressed/coopted by both of the political parties.
everywhere I’ve looked there were Jewish protesting, doing encampments, taking non stop against this.
still plenty of Israelis or zionist being full fash about it, but they should be ignored and let history leave them being and hopefully, they’ll get to live in a world that detests them
