• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    So many people running whataboutism interference for the apartheid regime in this thread 🤦

    We get it! Nobody sane is saying that the atrocities of Hamas are excusable! That doesn’t free the Israeli government from responsibility for their decades of oppression, genocide and systematic displacement of the Palestinian people, though.

    • JokklMaster@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I have seen many people say that terrorism from Hamas is excusable due to the actions of the Israeli government. Obviously the Israeli government has done many things they absolutely should not have, but that does not excuse terrorism like many people on Lemmy have said.

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        I have seen many people say that terrorism from Hamas is excusable

        Correction: a tiny minority of the most deranged tankies. I specified nobody SANE.

        excuse terrorism like many people on Lemmy have said.

        Same tiny minority of tankies. There’s a lot of tankies here but even amongst them, the condemnation of Hamas’ actions is near-universal.

        The same isn’t the case with supporters of the Israeli government. They are wont to say "Israel has a right to defend itself " as if decades of oppression, genocide and displacement coupled with extremely disproportionate responses are just necessary self defense 🤦

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      If you live in a country ran by terrorists and you support said terrorists, don’t be surprised when you get labeled as a terrorist.

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        So I guess that would make all Americans fascists from 2017 to 2019 at the earliest? 🙄

        Newsflash: there’s absolutely no proof that Hamas enjoy majority support, let alone the universal support you seem to assume. If they did, they’d probably have had an election much more recently.

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          Their argument is terrible, but it would actually apply better to Americans than Gazans, because at least Americans have some freedom of travel. (Of course, most couldn’t just emigrate to Canada or Mexico due to many issues, the biggest of which is money, but they wouldn’t be held back by the USA because they were never granted a birth certificate, for example.)

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    1 year ago

    I find them in every article, usually at the bottom after a lot of bullshit about Palestine

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    So, I’m confused. Was tying a bunch of kibbutz children together and shooting them to death a war crime or not? Amnesty international ha been silent on that.

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      Uh… Does anybody need to be told that Hamas committed warcrimes in their attack? Like is that anything less than common knowledge by now?

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          No. Only to people stupid enough to think Palestine IS Hamas. Fortunately for you, there are fucking idiots on both sides, though unfortunately, mostly on the side of people defending a genocidal powerful regime backed by the US…

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      The majority of the stories around Hamas have been proven bullshit. So I’d stop and ask why that is. Palestine has been suffering for 70+ years and antiwar activists have been trying to educate people about it for ages. Yet as soon as a small handful of flimsy, debunked stories come out about Hamas violence, the people that ignored Palestine for years come out in full force.

      That alone tells me what I need. Unwilling to face the massive pile of war crimes and bodies that have been piling up on the Palestine side for decades, but will immediately jump on any opportunity to force Palestinians and Palestine supporters to answer for the crimes of an extremist group that exists because of Israel’s war crimes and violence.

      You can immediately see the disconnect and the pro-Israel brainwashing surface.

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        If you don’t want to get fucked up you should probably not try and genocide your neighbor for the past 70 years. Muslims dug this hole a long time ago.

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      I too can’t believe that no one seems to give a fuck about what Hamas did. Apparently you’re only allowed to choose one single side in this conflict.

      Well, fuck that. As far as I’m concerned both deserve each other, and the conflict will never be resolved until either one party finally gets rid of the other, or they’re both obliterated somehow. So not holding my breath for a “solution”.

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        It’s only bad if the rockets kill people. Israel is clearly in the wrong here for protecting their citizens.

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      No. Somehow that was “resistance”. Same as murdering hundreds of people enjoying a music festival.