I think it’s a huge stretch to link soil sample info to nuclear weapons, especially when uranium is such a common ballast material in military equipment. I think it actually just makes more sense that Israel is using uraniam counterweights in their bombs, and that’s the source of this data.
I also think the article is underselling how straightforward it would be to detect atmospheric use of even very low yield nuclear weapons. There are many nations not aligned with Israel who do space based monitoring of that kind of stuff.
They would obviously use them if they could get away with it.
Even if it really is just uranium counterweights it seems like there will be no investigation until the entity falls. Which is just… great.
But the ballast is made from Depleted Uranium, whereas the concentration that was found is higher Enriched Uranium. Logically there should be less EU than naturally occurs in uranium if the concentration of DU was brought up.
detect atmospheric use of even very low yield nuclear weapons
I think this should be the next step, yeah. Very likely it can be detected.
Would depleted uranium give a false positive in the soil? Is that what you mean by “common ballast?”
They have not. The assertion is unfathomably ludcrious on it’s face. You cannot hide the detonation of even the lowest yield fission bombs from fairly casual private civilian observers, let alone governments. Every government with an intelligence agency on earth knows when a nuclear weapon is detonated. This is nonsense and i will not waste time on it.
This is nonsense and i will not waste time on it.
Criticalresist has sent us a silly letter.
the allegation that this same evidence of enriched uranium has been found in kosovo and fallujah, rather than buttressing this argument, makes it very suspect.
scenario a) Israel is using janky, badly depleted uranium or some secret neutron bombs—somewhat believable
scenario b) the US & Israel have been using novel nuclear weaponry in multiple wars for over 20 years without bragging, disclosing, leaking, or any other scientists bringing attention to it. in a world where DU munitions are known and quite passively acquiesced by nuclear safety/proliferation agencies, why would similarly low-scale devices imagined by this investigation need to be secret?
i’m more amenable to this indicating a misinterpretation of evidence of DU weaponry or even under-studied effects of extreme bomb saturation & destruction in modern urban areas. I assume “natural” measurements for amounts of background uranium were not taken in places where the soil & buildings are turned out and blasted into the air very often
Update: A small edit has been made to the title to change the assertion to a question. While the findings of Enriched Uranium in high concentrations in Gaza and southern Lebanon are concerning, they may not yet point to the use of nuclear weapons (called tactical nukes). The findings are concerning enough by themselves to warrant further investigation, which we can safely assume will be blocked at every turn by “Israel” and the United States should someone try to make it happen.
Pretty much this. It’s going to be blocked if anyone tries to investigate this further, although I’m not surprised in the least if Israhell was using tactical nukes on Gaza.
Because neutron bombs have never been tested on actual people, we can only speculate what damage they cause. Further in the article for example I posted an article (that someone found for me a posteriori) of eyewitness accounts in Gaza saying victims of bombs were just turned to ash on the spot.
Someone else here however postulated there should be other sources experts can look at to take samples and test them.
doubt dot gif
neutron bombs kill everyone in a large radius, we’d know if they were being used
so what i am taking away from all of this over the last few day is that it is likely that EU bullets are being used on civilians (rather than tactical nukes or fictional dirty bombs)
Isn’t this about enriched uranium being found in bomb craters? What does this have to do with bullets?
i’m not actually gonna answer your question because in my original post i mixed up depleted uranium and enriched uranium and so instead i now invite you to imagine me as a sheepish looking pig with the text “supposed uranium expert” superimposed underneath
You can just edit your orginal comment you know. For what its worth assuming depleted uranium is also being used is far from unreasonable.
i stand by each of my boners and gaffes, they are still my little children
You can just edit your orginal comment you know.
Uh actually that’s revisionist
It’s possible they’re EU bullets, but I also don’t think that would make sense because EU is much more difficult to find (and thus expensive) than DU. I also can’t find their existing from looking it up online but we all know how terrible search engines are now.
Other people have already commented on more technical reasons why this is almost certainly not true, but from a social angle, there’s absolutely no way that the Israelis wouldn’t have leaked this out of genocidal pride sometimes in the last few decades if they were doing it.
I have a theory on this id like to share. I do not think they are using neutron bombs. But i think instead they are lacing conventional weapons with small amounts of enriched uranium.
Why would they do this? Well i believe there are 2 reasons. 1 is the cause of a health crisis from the radiation and higher rates of cancer and other issues but i dont think thats the main one.
The 2nd and most important reason they do this in my opinion is tracking.
You find a small outpost of fighters, and hit them with a bomb laced with enriched uranium particles. The bombs are likely designed not to kill everyone in the area immediately. Then the uranium get all over, and inside the people in the outpost, and those people flee to other nearby outposts or bases of whatever faction you are targeting. You can then track the radiation trail left behind by the survivors and follow them right to any other bases in that area.
This explains why the other signs of nuclear weapons use are not there. Because it is in fact a conventional weapon. It would also only require a small amount of enriched uranium so would be harder to detect and explain why we didnt figure it out sooner.
that would be an idea if they were bombing combatants. 99% of ‘tracks’ they’d actually get from bombsites would be civilians and aid workers
Why’d you say combatants thrice?
this method also works for them actually. If your goal is to kill them all you can track survivors to their next hiding spot and hit them again. Would also help you find any makeshift medical treatment areas and destroy those too. You gotta start thinking like a genocidal maniac to understand why these people do what they do.
I once had a former USAF psyops officer claim the Air Force was doing something like that during the first Gulf War, but he was drunk and rambling in a boastful “good old days” sort of way that included pulling out a zip lock bag full of old psyops leaflets he’d kept as souvenirs, so not the most reliable source.
This evidence (measurements of low-enriched uranium) is interesting, and concerning, but there must be more plausible explanations than this.
What about contamination from spent fuel (accidental or intentional)?
Don’t spread bullshit like this when what Isreal actually does is bad enough.
