If you want reasonable performance, you’ll need this:
747.41kW, or around six and a quarter NVIDIA GB200 NVL72 racks. Max power consumption was rated for around 1.75MW.
I think my electric company would pay me a visit if I fired that bad boy up in my house lmao, to bad the auction closed already. Oh and it closed at 480k lmfaooo
I have a gif of you powering it on at home:
Been running NC since 5+ years without any issue 🤷
lol this is such a classic Linux trope
Person A: I can’t seem to get this to work! Arg!
Person B: I have been running this for years with no issues. It just works!
Right? I’ve been using NextCloud/OwnCloud since ~2015. It’s a very standard LAMP app, nothing fancy going on at all. Give it enough memory and you’ll never have any problems, same as any other web service.
My only problem is trying to use it with the android app. I have to manually sync it like all the time which is a pain in the ass when I forget to do it before I go out the door and my shopping list isn’t update. That and it won’t sync files I create on the phone to the server
Yeah that sounds bad. Did you disable battery optimization for the app?
I’ve been running it for years. It has issues but they are gradually going away.
nextcloud aio docker image. final answer
Best way I’ve seen to do it.
Does this allow for easy upgrades and/or are there any issues with local storage? I used to run it about an age and a half ago, but I’ve recently wanted to spin an instance back up for a few reasons. These things change so fast, I looked away and now I’m out of the loop.
Upgrades are easy, backups are really good, if upgrades mess up, you can restore from backup even if NC is hosed. As for local storage, I never did it, but here’s the docs for it! https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/configuration_files/external_storage/local.html
Thanks. Might do that this weekend.
Nope, the document server didn’t work.
onlyoffice you mean?
Both, couldn’t get it to work. I outsource groupware now.
I really really tried to like it, but I would constantly run into issues with files not deleting properly and would get database errors regularly. If the intent was to separate management of the underlying database, all it did was cause headaches.
Not to mention, not being able to easily just go under the hood to the file system and remove something drove me up a wall. Just let me delete my files, dammit!
I ended up just using a big-standard file share on TrueNAS.
NC seems to either work completely or it doesnt, barely an inbetween there.
Its fine for me for two years and going. But I only have two users and maybe 200 GB of data. My 16 gigs of ram barely goes above 20%, my 4 thread oldschool xeon usually stays at <5% usage.
Doing sysadmin stuff for 20 yrs probably helps though.
You don’t really need anything to get started, just 20 years of experience.
20 yrs of experience rarely makes things worse I guess.
Stop reminding me that I haven’t used it for half a year since it broke for the 4th time and I am too lazy to fix it…
Works great until you have to update and you don’t know you have to do fancy stuff not to break things. I didn’t know I had to follow special instructions until things stopped working, and even then I couldn’t get it to update and it’s all borked now.
What else works for people lately just for the cloud files part?
https://filebrowser.org/ just exposes a filesystem you point it at. Never had problems wit this. For syncing you can use syncthing.
I nearly ditched nextcloud fully for this, but haven’t found anything that matches the convenience of nextcloud for family members iPhone
Also filebrowser doesn’t yet let you share folders that people can upload to, nor have good photo viewing in a shared folder (without login)
The best NC setup, is uninstalling NC. Seriously, I spent a month getting that monstrosity to work and not bitch about configurations OUT OF THE BOX that it does NOT HAVE A UI FOR just to find out that half of the ‘apps’ are half-baked buggy messes and the other are out of date, half-baked buggy messes. A to-do system without repeating item availability was the last one I learned about before salting the earth of that hopeless project.
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Actually got me pissed off, thinking about it again. Jesus.
Out of curiosity, what do you use instead?
Turkey feather quill and Egyptian papyrus.
I’ve never heard of either app, are they open source?
What distro are you on?
Temple OS.
Right now I’m using a synology nas and its 1st party programs, but trying to break away to a more foss-friendly environment. Drive, Contacts, Calendar/Tasks, just work and don’t require any fiddling so until a worthy opponent shows up, I’m kinda stuck.
I’m there too right now. Got a DS720+ but it’s struggling a little since I’m also self hosting mail through it. I’ve been eyeing to use NC as a replacement for everything but do get mixed feelings from threads like these lol
I hope to in the future get a proper little mini PC with a disk enclosure in the future to have as a replacement for that however!
@wreckedcarzz @Zelaf got #seafile ?
I’ve looked briefly into seafile; I’m fine, happy really, with the synology for file hosting, it’s just the caldav, the photo management (I have immich but there’s no easy way to move albums from syno to imm), stuff like that. And the fact that it all works together (reverse proxy, apps, web UI…) makes it illogical to move away for anything else than ‘principle’ or ‘insufficient hardware’.
I have truenas running on a proxmox system but it appears it wants more than one drive? But I don’t have matching drives for raid at the moment. That was/is something I’m looking into longer term, once I decouple the data from the services.
Seen a small company share a nextcloud server running on a old VMware cluster with 2 cores and like 8g of ram allocated… What are people doing with their nextcloud servers?
I’ve been using it (3 different installs) since the Owncloud fork with very few issues
Very interested in what issues people are coming across
I’ve used it about as long, and I’ve never seen it as easy to maintain as the AIO container strategy they’re on now. It’s effortless, and after years of failed updates and rolling shit back via occ, it’s night and day. Even NCPi wasn’t as bulletproof.
I installed it on bare metal in Arch Linux, cause it’s more fun that way.
You’re a monster…
I also did it back when next cloud demanded a version of php that wasn’t yet in the Arch repos. Fun times.
Running a Docker container now.
I’m still using Nextcloud, have been for only 2-3 years, but it’s getting to the point where I’m more annoyed about it than appreciating the usefulness
It’s not just being slow, it issues with the install. I’m pretty sure these days I’d be better of with specialized individual services than this one monster that die absolutely nothing well. It still can’t even sync files on Android ffs. I’d consider this core functionality.
I haven’t had issues with syncing files on android. File sync is literally the only feature I use, so I should probably look for a simpler solution.
Now upgrading the fucking thing is a nightmare, not sure if me using docker images makes it worse or better though.
Just use the docker AIO image.
I do, and if you accidentally skip a version when updating it the stupid thing bricks itself, what kind of stupid software can’t handle multiple make version updates.
Had to manually reset the version it thinks it was at and roll back to a older sticker image and update one version at a time until I caught up.
This one? It was only started a couple years ago, I’m not even sure there’s been multiple major version changes since it was put out and generally available.
I wish tried it. The thing implied twice and I had to start from scratch. Not exactly “smooth”. Went to a full manual install, which is better but still very far from “good” or “stable”.
Unless something changed in the last few weeks, Android app can’t do bidirectional folder sync like you’re used to from Google drive, Dropbox or one drive. You can mark a folder for “sync”, but try copying something into it, it changing an existing file: no change on the server. I think you can manually open the app, navigate to the folder and open the menu to “sync”, but what the hell is the point in having it marked to be synced then? I wanted to use it for my keepass DB for example, where that would be a requirement.
Yes, updates are a nightmare. I’m not on docker (also not sure if better or worse) and every 2nd update sometime significantly breaks that I have to fix manually. Last time, the “group folders” plugin (official, from the Nextcloud devs) broke it so bad that Nextcloud wouldn’t even start. I had to go into maintenance mode, disable the plug-in (“app” I guess it’s the term?), update it from console, re-enable it, disable maintenance mode. Not pictured: finding out what the god damn problem was this time. I’ve just about had it…
Just use the AIO docker image.
We’ll see if your reading comprehension liabilities extend to self-hosting.
Seafile is extremely easy to set up and does one thing and one thing well.
It does store your data as binaries, so it would be a bit harder to restore than Nextcloud due to that, but I’ve never had an issue with seafile.
Of course, I didn’t have a problem with Nextcloud until an upgrade borked the installation bad enough that even restoring from backup couldn’t solve the issue.
SyncThing has been great for me. I tried NextCloud and OwnCloud first, granted years ago, and they were not great. So I’ve been using SyncThing at least 5 years now.
It doesn’t really fill all the basic use cases I have either unfortunately. But it will probably be my fall back, yes.
nextcloud sounds like a good way to get vmware’d to me but what do i know.
🤔
it seems pretty cool but i don’t like anything that is heavily integrated for principle reasons.
Are people really getting skill issued by Nextcloud? The official docker images always worked well for me. I used the Nextcloud apache docker image, connected it with postgresql and a nginx reverse proxy that handles SSL. Never had any major problems with Nextcloud. I only stopped selfhosting because I found a cheaper alternative that handles Nextcloud hosting for me.
@e8d79 which alternative is that?
Hetzner storage share was cheaper for me than renting a vps with some block storage.
People have problems with Nextcloud? You only have to be careful when upgrading major versions of Nextcloud or its database. It’s your fault if you’re using the latest tag.
