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    I thought about digging up the video of Bernie vigorously complaining about aid for Israel without any improvement in their behavior from the 1980s. But I feel like I’ve sent it to you before along with some others, the last time you raised this totally bizarre argument.

    But something even more fundamental occurred to me

    You’re saying that Bernie Sanders is in lock step with the DNC?

    Bernie Sanders?

    DNC?

    You, uh…

    Are you under the impression Bernie Sanders is a Democrat?

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      6 months ago

      They might not know enough about US politics to understand the nuance.

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        I think it is fairly obvious that they’re just deliberately saying weird and inflammatory shit to pollute the discussion. I mean, it worked on me.

        But yes, if we’re going to take it seriously enough to write down reasons why they are clearly not being honest, “all the people on the ‘left’ look the same to me, I put Bernie Sanders and the Democratic Party in the same category, doesn’t everyone on the American left do that?” is a fairly big one.

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        The warm and loving friendship between Bernie and the DNC, with him always agreeing with everything they wa

        You know what

        Even typing a sarcastic reply to this is a waste of time.

        I looked over your profile. Long story short:

        The US and Ukraine ripped up that treaty years before by refusing to abide by the terms of the Minsk Agreements. [emphasis mine]

        Anyone with an ounce of integrity would be anti US, anti EU, anti Ukraine.

        Navalny was ostracized in Russia because of his white nationalism, not because he opposed Putin.

        Just curious – what sources of news / world politics information do you usually read? Where did you learn this about Navalny and the Minsk agreement, for example, or about how silent Bernie has been on the Israel issue up until now? I am interested to learn to deprogram myself from all the Western propaganda that maybe I’ve been taken in by, and I’d like to be able to expose myself to some honest news. What would you recommend as a good place to get started where I could learn this stuff too?

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            Or just pulled out of his ass. I’m pretty sure the Bernie Israel thing is just made up because of the impact it would have, not anything this person even read in some propaganda piece.

            @anticolonialist@lemmy.world Answer me you perfectly honest person – you say things like “I suspect everything you know about both countries has come from US propaganda” – okay sure, where do you get what you know about both countries? And about Biden, or Bernie Sanders? Why would this straightforward question lead to sudden silence?