claim 1: “voting doesn’t change anything”

Never forget the recent case of Kris Mayes, who refuses to uphold the Arizona supreme court’s sweeping ban of abortion.

Kris Mayes only won her 2022 election by 280 votes. Voting changes things.

claim 2: “but genocide joe”

Yep. Hold that fucker’s feet to the fire. He has blood on his hands

But trump has promised to be indisputably worse.

I won’t tell you how to vote. I just encourage you to vote. You’re not radical for ditching the only miniscule right the state has granted you to do some small aid for your neighbors.

  • grue@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Yeah, that’s the real issue here: neoliberals are more comfortable with fascism than progressivism or socialism, but most of the younger generation is (justifiably) disillusioned with liberalism, so of course the neoliberals Democratic Party is having a hard time finding candidates it wants to support.

    The solution, of course, is to kick out the fucking neolibs that have a stranglehold on the party, but that’s easier said than done.

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      The solution, of course, is to kick out the fucking neolibs that have a stranglehold on the party, but that’s easier said than done.

      Very much so. It’s why I only donate to candidates and never the party. I only trust the party to spend it on ads for maga chuds.

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      6 months ago

      That will never happen if neo libs can support a genocide and still be voted in. Why would they change if they can support a genocide and still win?

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        Here’s the problem – if that happens, conservative fascists can support genocides and still be voted in. In addition to all of their other appalling beliefs. And the thing is, when Republicans win, they swing the entire country to the right. It’s happened every time since Obama.

        Consider too, what happened in 2020 after Clinton lost in 2016? Did the party swing hard left? Not at all. Bernie’s team helped adjust the rules for the primary to be fairer and did away with superdelegates. Still, in a head to head against Biden, he couldn’t win. And all primaries eventually winnow down to 2-3 candidates. In a ranked choice primary, Bernie wouldn’t have won even if everyone stayed in the whole time.

        To swing left, you have to build continuously and gradually.