TL;DR:
Pilot Project Conclusion: The Swiss Federal Chancellery’s Mastodon instance pilot project, launched in September 2023, has ended as the conditions for continuation were not met.
Low Engagement: The six official accounts on Mastodon had around 3500 followers in total, with low engagement rates compared to other platforms like X and Instagram.
User Decline: The number of active Mastodon users globally is decreasing, contributing to the decision to end the project.
Closure: The social.admin.ch instance will be closed at the end of the month.
Article translated in English :
Confederation closes its Mastodon instance
Bern, 25.09.2024 - Since September 2023, the Federal Chancellery has been operating a Mastodon instance for the federal administration. The pilot project, limited to one year, ends today as the conditions for its continuation have not been met.
As part of their statutory information mandate, the Federal Council and the federal administration have also been communicating on social media for many years and are constantly examining whether platforms not used until now are eligible.
In September 2023, the Conference of Federal Information Services decided to launch a pilot project on the decentralised Mastodon platform. The Federal Chancellery then opened the social.admin.ch instance, on which members of the Federal Council and departments could manage official accounts. The pilot project was limited to one year.
Mastodon has useful features for government communication. Thanks to its decentralised organisation, the platform is not subject to the control of a single company or to any state censorship. Its source code is open, it complies with data protection and is not driven by algorithms.
Too few active users
On the social.admin.ch instance, three departments managed five accounts, and the Federal Chancellery managed one account for the entire Federal Council. The six accounts of the Confederation had around 3,500 subscribers in total.
On platforms such as X or Instagram, the Federal Council and the Federal Administration reach many more subscribers with comparable accounts. In addition, the contributions of the Mastodon accounts of the Federal Council and the Federal Administration have rather low engagement rates (likes, shares, comments). Finally, the number of active users of Mastodon worldwide is once again falling.
The Conference of Information Services of the Confederation therefore considers that the conditions for continuing the pilot project have not been met, and activities on the Mastodon accounts of the Federal Council and the federal administration are suspended as of today. The social.admin.ch instance will be closed at the end of the month.
Mastodon use in on a decline? What a shame. I personally dislike the format but then again I barely used Twitter.
9 out of 10 porn bots prefer X
From what I saw it was actually rising. A lot of Brazilian signed up when X was banned in their country and all the indicators are going up it seems. I don’t know where they got their numbers, to me it feels like they needed an excuse to cut costs.
I saw mastodon had a slight bump when that happened, but 90% of them went to bluesky. They got like 3 3 million users in 2 days. Mastodon got like …a few thousand?
a few hundreds at most I would say.
Even if, they don’t really speak English, let alone German. You can see it on Bluesky that the majority of posts are in Portuguese.
It has had a huge increase according to the statistics. I wonder where they are getting their numbers from. Both fedidb and other sources say the number of users are only going up.
FediDB reports that the Mastodon active user count is on the decline the last year, from more than. 1.2 million to 820k thousand. The number seems to maybe stabilize a little, but it appears as a slow decline when studying the last year.
Then again, this is following from a huge bump of new users with the twitter exodus. It’s natural that not all will stick around, so a decline in active user now is not so surprising. It does indicate a lack of ability to move the momentum, but it’s an open source project with very limited funding, not a venture capital startup. It’s not here for explosive growth.
Furthermore, the number of Mastodon users is not a perfect measure. If it was matched by a huge number of users on gotosocial or misskey, it wouldn’t really matter. The Swiss should maybe have waited for Threads to federate both ways before deciding to leave on account of limited interactions.
Anyway, they’re not entirely wrong to say Mastodon is on the decline. But they’re not entirely right either.
Just for the record, I know little about gotosocial, but I’ve looked into Misskey a fair bit and I think it’s irrelevant here.
FediDB data on active users seems off (a low ~12k MAU), but even if the real number is much greater, most are on the flagship instance (misskey.io) which has multiple CSAM censures on fediseer.
Put another way, it’s almost counterproductive to include Misskey in these topics because simply federating with its biggest instance could be a liability for most 1st world western instances.
I doubt the Swiss government would get much out of Misskey.
I just mentioned them because they’re microblog sites, so in theory they do the exact same thing as Mastodon. The number of Mastodon users doesn’t matter; the number of people on Fediverse platforms compatible with Mastodon matters.
So Lemmy users are not very helpful, but Mbin users maybe more so. Or Friendica.
The point is just that the number of Mastodon users is, in theory, irrelevant, as you don’t just communicate with Mastodon users. Maybe misskey was a bad example, I don’t know anything about it.
Yeah it’s no wonder as Bluesky seems to work better as an alternative.
Until they run out of VC money.
Then the enshittification happens, to pay the bills.
Yeah, not unlikely. Can’t truly know ahead of time of course, but it feels like that would eventually happen. I wish governments in particular had jumped harder onto Mastodon, slowly moving attention there.
But it’s probably also difficult to justify, because from their perspective it’s just one “someone else’s solution” vs another. They’d have to first make their own twitter like fediverse software I bet.
The EU at least is still sticking around, which is cool.
I have to say I’m a believer in slow growth here. It wouldn’t be good if one Mastodon server completely dominated; neither would it be good if Mastodon as a software was the only viable alternative. Right now we’re in a great spot where a bunch of different solutions are being developed.
I think this development is healthy, and it be depends on slower more organic growth. And it might not be a linear process, but eventually I believe activitypub integration will be as obvious as having an RSS feed. Doesn’t matter much if it takes a while to get there.
On that note it would be good if governments didn’t just sometimes use Mastodon, but rather integrate activitypub into their actual web sites.
Better in what way? Format wise? Does it have better apps?
Better content.
Mastodon is full of keyboard activism and news. Finding content for/from normies is not that easy and is usually ignored (0 retoots or so).
Bluesky has normie content along news and is still pretty left-leaning, a couple of artists/creators have an account there.
Finding porn/hentai is also easier than in mastodon (and you don’t have to check every detail of the servers to know if it’s allowed).
Tl;dr: Bluesky requires no mental effort to create an account and has normie content.
Bluesky is federated right? You will still have to check what the host allows. I get the impression the only reason there are more normies is because of the celebrity of Jack Dorsey.
could be federated, but it is not. As of now it is just twitter 2.0
@iorale @Jake_Farm not as normie as threads I think.
I really struggle to find good accounts to follow on bluesky, and most of the french accounts/content are inactive for months (I even have a better content/experience on mastodon since they federated w/ threads and flipboard).
But beyond mastodon, it’s really sad that they leave the fediverse for now, hope they’ll comeback one day or another (on mastodon or any other plateform)
I just follow a couple, so far I haven’t found accounts worth the follow, but just browsing the feed usually gives me enough content for a moment (I don’t browse it for hours).
There’s a Mastodon instance for my country (México)… but nobody fucking posts anything, a friend of mine tried it but all her posts were kind of normie content so she was ignored… hard, so she just deleted her account.
Also trying to check the content on others servers is cumbersome and a pain.
No comment, I blocked threads and I don’t really use flipboard.
I don’t think the Fediverse is ready for the normal public yet, it requieres too much effort (yes, dedicating time to read every little detail to pick a server is annoying) only to find out there is no content for them, the UI is very not user friendly (generally speaking), that maybe they landed on an instance that doesn’t allow what they want or it’s just a propaganda server.
As I said about SimpleX… it needs to pretty-up if the plan is to welcome normal people, otherwise it’s just us.
No I mean it seems to work better as an alternative. Quite a few smaller companies, content creators and so on I want to see enws from are on there, so it somehow seems to work better for them. 🤷♀️
If you speak Portuguese maybe.
How do you mean? It’s majorly US centric, and that was part of why Mastodon worked better as a Twitter-replacement here in the EU at first.
But as always, something like Reddit or Twitter benefits from centralization, as far as user interactions go. So slowly, people drift to whatever the single largest alternative is when they leave the current status quo, and in alternative-Twitter-land, this seems to be either Threads or Bluesky, and their cases are fairly incomparable.
Doesn’t make it the perfect solution, but like always in Engineering, the perfect solution is rarely the best one.
It has pretty much stagnated in the English speaking part of the internet, and only saw a huge boost in popularity in Brazil recently (due to Twitter being newly banned there).
I had a look at it a while ago and almost everything I searched for was in Portuguese. Not a big issue for me since I don’t really understand and consequently not use those type of platforms anyway but I kinda felt that would probably stop a wide adaptation with English speaking people.
I did some tests here, setting up my browser config to show content preferably in Italian, then German, then Portuguese, then English. It showed something like 5~10 posts in English for each post in Portuguese. (No content was shown in either Italian or German, so odds are that Bluesky doesn’t even take the browser config into account.)
Granted, for most Portuguese speakers it should be 7:00 now, so it might be worth repeating the test for the later afternoon, dunno, 18:00 or so. Or in the weekend.